AmPM
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« on: February 09, 2011, 01:55:27 pm » |
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Accuracy
PIAT
L .3
M .65
S 1.0
Schrek
L .35
M .75
S 1.0
Damage
PIAT 90
Schrek 120 (150 due to AoE damage multiplier of 1.25)
Penetration
PIAT
S 2.0
M 2.0
L 1.0
Schrek
S 1.0
M 1.0
L 1.0
Weapon vs Medium Tank
Schrek vs Sherman
1.0 accuracy
1.0 damage (150 damage)
0.8779 penetration
PIAT vs Panzer IV w/o Skirts
1.0 accuracy
1.6 damage (144 damage)
0.449 penetration (2.0 modifier at S/M range to 0.888)
PIAT vs Panzer IV w/ Skirts
1.0 accuracy
1.2 damage
0.449 penetration
With 2 PIATs per upgrade to 1 Schrek, at anything but the longest of ranges they far and away outdamage them, on a cheaper and similarly durable platform that can Ambush.
Both upgrades are 120mu.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 01:57:01 pm » |
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Piat is getting + 1 pop nerf
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| BigDick
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 01:57:45 pm » |
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as long as you drive away from them they don't hit you
i think really nasty are these 6 men commando squads with piats smoke and nades
even when they are 10 mun more expensive then normal piats they are much better on them
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 02:06:40 pm » |
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yeah you got to to take into account the piat projectile travels much slower so its unlikely to hit anything thats moving away from the piat.
but piats again can shoot trough stuff.
overall I would say piat > schreck.
piat can move into range, stay behind cover yet shoot a volley, have chance to do a lot of dmg(like half of the P4s hp?) and back off again unharmed.
with schreck u move into range, you shoot and have chance to do damage(like 1/5th of sherman hp?), lose 2 guys of gren squad due to allied tank shooting you, and back off.
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AmPM
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 02:08:10 pm » |
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You also need to take into account that CW have vehicle disablers that are mobile and dual purpose.
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| NightRain
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 02:16:00 pm » |
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PIAT > Shreck by any means.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 02:16:48 pm » |
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PIAT > Shreck by any means.
1 no , but 2 yes |
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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 02:31:36 pm » |
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as long as you drive away from them they don't hit you
You do have those odd moments though where the piat seems to have a sniper scope on it. |
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AmPM
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 03:27:47 pm » |
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You do have those odd moments though where the piat seems to have a sniper scope on it.
This is where it gets interesting. If something rolls a "hit" then it homes in. |
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3rdCondor
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 03:30:07 pm » |
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PIAT can fire over hedges and buildings... this must be taken into account.
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fuck the pgren rifle, fucking dogshit weapon
My beautiful black pussy won
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AmPM
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 03:45:27 pm » |
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More importantly, if you roll a "hit" both weapons are likely to hit their target short of something odd. This is where you get those heat seeking tank shells etc.
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nugnugx
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 03:46:47 pm » |
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More importantly, if you roll a "hit" both weapons are likely to hit their target short of something odd. This is where you get those heat seeking tank shells etc.
I see no problem with this, if it's a hit according to game mechanics, it should be a hit. |
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AmPM
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2011, 03:47:35 pm » |
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It's not a problem, but it does negate the "well, if you move they miss"; only shots that rolled a miss will miss.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2011, 03:50:57 pm » |
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PIATs are a balistic artillery shell. Meaning if they roll a "hit" they merely are guaranteed to hit the exact centre of the area they're targetting  . They do not "magic home" like bazookas or tank shells do. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2011, 04:30:13 pm » |
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Agreed with Mys, it's an arty shell balistic type, I can dodge all I want and still not get hit, they don't home like say a bazooka round or sticky bomb. That's why having more accuracy is usually BAD for a piat because sometimes you want it to scatter to hit a moving vehicle.
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Firesparks
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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2011, 09:27:51 pm » |
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Damage
PIAT 90
Schrek 120
the schreck deals 150 damage. It has a 1.25 damage modifier from its AOE. |
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 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925 |
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AmPM
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2011, 09:33:45 pm » |
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Good catch, I'm learning my way around the RGDs right now.
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2011, 12:36:58 pm » |
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Do note that PIATs are Rich man's Riflenades. They are awsome at gibbing infantry
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2011, 12:38:33 pm » |
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gotta love when it lands and kills guy in 1 hit
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2011, 12:42:50 pm » |
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gotta love when it lands and kills guy in 1 hit
I have had shreks randomly snipe my officers and insta gib infantry too, doesn't happen that often but it sticks in your mind and seems like it happens alot more then it does. |
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