Sniper supression fire

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[spinn72]

Icelandic, your pictures always make me laugh, sooo good!

Mysthalin, 8thRifleRegiment doesn't go that far, he'll only go as far as to say "it's OP, the game is shit, fuck you all". Writing proper arguments is too much for him, he'd rather spend his time bitching about the game whilst taking advantage of the ventrillo server and wasting space and other players' time on the forums, which is a damn shame.

With the exception of the StG44/ elite armour HMG's, Heavy support was still pretty good. I also had an issue with the survivability of pak's. Any pak that can hold its own against a rifle squad can't be balanced well  .

The focus fire feature is the whole reason the T4 exists. I'd say it's well balanced because all it does is slightly increase what MG42's already do best -- counter INFANTRY. You trade off suppression for damage, but all the negative aspects of using MG42's are still there.

[EliteGren]

Actually Heavy support made support weapons get raped by flamers, as pointed out before. So it really is a double-edged sword

[Mysthalin]

that is actually bullshit

elite armor is no heroic armor like KCH have that crew would need very low HP to crit and kill them

Learn to read Bigdick. There's a reason I said mini-KCH, and not "exactly like KCH".

[NightRain]

Actually Heavy support made support weapons get raped by flamers, as pointed out before. So it really is a double-edged sword

+1 Similar to HVAP rounds on pershings: made them stronger vs armor but weaker vs infantry

[smurfORnot]

good thing thread is about sniper supression fire 

is there any plans about how new heavy support is gona look?

[BigDick]

Learn to read Bigdick. There's a reason I said mini-KCH, and not "exactly like KCH".

thats the same logic as saying riflemen are mini rangers

kch are not even close to be similar

- heroic armor vs elite armor
- 90hp vs 55hp
- 3 men with mp44 vs 2 men heavy support mp44

[Mysthalin]

Heavy Support HMG crewmen had 70 HP each, Bigdick.

And the superiority of heroic armour versus elite armour is far lesser than the superiority of elite armour over infantry armour.

And, to be fair - on a basic level with no upgrades - rangers are nothing more than beefed up riflemen. Or riflemen a "lite" version of rangers. The difference in upgrades is what makes the two units differentiated.

[Tymathee]

^ pretty much. Although you'll rarely see anyone use ranger without upgrades or crewing stuff