57mm AP rounds

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[AmPM]

Let me rephrase that: AT Guns can kill pretty much any non-doctrinal Allied tank fairly quickly without armor piercing shells, in comparison to the speed at which Allied AT Guns kill Axis tanks without armor piercing shells.

And if they buff the whole Tiger, Pershing needs King Tiger Armor and 33% penetration increase.

Then your quote is misleading, you should state "the speed at which Allied AT Guns kill a Panther without AP shells", since a Panther is a whole hell of a lot different and more expensive than a P4/STuG/Ostwind/etc

[Vermillion_Hawk]

Regardless, this has devolved into a stupid, petty discussion and I still stand by my original suggestion.

[Demon767]

your suggestion only proves that ATG AP rounds is ludicrous. I would hate to have an axis stealing my ATG AP because we all know how bullshit its damage and penetration is.

Also, id like to point out that, even though axis have "better armor and better health" which is the Panther, its utterly defeated by ATG AP. When we put an identically sized tank in comparison we gotthe churchill and pershing. the Pak is utter shit however not so much against pershing but it still takes more then atleast 10 shots, some of those will bounce.

So, with that in mind, if the Axis could gain ATG AP then it would even the battlefield, as they also have a chance to us them.

also its kind of a flawed suggestion as the same can be said by equipment dropped on the field. Shreks, RRs, Zooks, LMGS, Bars, Brens etc