skaffa
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« on: June 19, 2011, 08:57:21 am » |
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Are they really still useful or priced right now that we have the new G43 suppressing fire ?
SG: 225 mp 70 muni 3 pop 3 man squad.
G43: 215 mp 60 muni 5 pop 4 man squad
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« Last Edit: June 19, 2011, 09:55:16 am by skaffa »
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bad luck skaffa> creates best and most played eir maps
> hated for creating best and most played eir maps
47k new all time record?
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead |
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2011, 09:00:11 am » |
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arent support grenadiers free for all PE? SE T2 is mg42 4 man.
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| DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2011, 09:01:18 am » |
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You should proboly be comparing them to Wher LMG grens, they are alot more similer unit.
And when has support grens been a unlock? They have always been available to all PE factions.
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2011, 10:58:45 am » |
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They were introduced at a time when pe had no other suppression platform.
Now that G43s can be used for suppression, and with scout car MGs being available to all,
(+ SE MG 42 and luft mg 34) you could definitely argue they're kind of useless.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2011, 11:01:27 am » |
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So you guys fixed the problome of the SC getting stuck in Lockdown when the Guy goes inside the car?
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2011, 11:19:04 am » |
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We did last patch AFAIK
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2011, 11:21:02 am » |
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The new G43s even supress inside smoke, I see no reason to use these guys
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Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2011, 03:00:58 pm » |
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The new G43s even supress inside smoke, I see no reason to use these guys
Just reduce the Muni price a bit. That way it'll be a good support unit grouped with regular pzgrens. It shouldn't be 70 for a 3 man squad, that's what gren lmgs cost. It should cost about 50 munitions. |
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Tymathee
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« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2011, 06:02:00 pm » |
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so support grens need to go.
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TheVolskinator
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2011, 06:04:57 pm » |
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TBH I like them, adds enough firepower and suppression to avoid using Slow with G43s--the greater DPS output is awsome and frankly, yeah, I think theyre worth about 50 MU.
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2011, 07:13:36 am » |
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so support grens need to go.
No. They need a price decrease. |
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TheVolskinator
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2011, 08:44:29 am » |
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^I second. All in favor?
*forum* Aye.
*gavel* The Support Grenadiers will be cheaper!
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| MorkaandBorka
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« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2011, 09:14:46 am » |
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Lol support grens are the weakest unit in this game, once one man dies your pretty much screwed out of most situation and then it becomes a waste of manpower and 70 goddamn munitions. Needs to be fixed pretty soon.
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| NightRain
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« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2011, 10:55:39 am » |
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Lol support grens are the weakest unit in this game, once one man dies your pretty much screwed out of most situation and then it becomes a waste of manpower and 70 goddamn munitions. Needs to be fixed pretty soon.
Why ya lads complaining about support grens? It is a LMG with more suppression. Think it as a mobile MG42 with less suppression and no deployment time and can not be FLANKED. Unlike G43 suppression this one has no timed ability. It is on, ON ON and all the time ON which means that if g43 is on cooldown and you need suppression- you are fucked. There fore Light MG team is useful in its own and therefore does not require any sort of price decrease and is fine. |
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« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2011, 11:10:50 am » |
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then why is this awesome,mobile 'mg42' that cant be flanked so rarely used?
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| MorkaandBorka
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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2011, 11:22:53 am » |
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Lol support grens are the weakest unit in this game, once one man dies your pretty much screwed out of most situation and then it becomes a waste of manpower and 70 goddamn munitions. Needs to be fixed pretty soon.
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| PonySlaystation
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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2011, 11:41:54 am » |
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Why ya lads complaining about support grens? It is a LMG with more suppression. Think it as a mobile MG42 with less suppression and no deployment time and can not be FLANKED. Unlike G43 suppression this one has no timed ability. It is on, ON ON and all the time ON which means that if g43 is on cooldown and you need suppression- you are fucked.
There fore Light MG team is useful in its own and therefore does not require any sort of price decrease and is fine.
It's not anything close to what you described. It sounds like you haven't used the unit at all. Just like smurfornot says, nobody uses them because they're so overpriced. |
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| Rocksitter
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2011, 12:01:47 pm » |
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I use 3 of them in my company because the 3 pop but the 3 man thing seems to always bite you in the ass...
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| BigDick
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2011, 12:05:09 pm » |
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hm if you make it 50 mun then i consider to spam them in HTs  |
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2011, 12:26:34 pm » |
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I don't see any reason why not to use this unit. It is a mobile 30 cal on feet. The only real fuck up is that BAR suppresses them before they suppress a bar haha
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