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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2011, 12:38:07 am »

it's funny this tank destroyer is great against infantry and so-so against tanks XD
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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2011, 12:56:40 am »

It's awesome against Tanks!!
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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2011, 12:59:02 am »

What if ambush attacks stunned for 3 seconds.

this is a horrible idea...there's a reason they removed t17 stun.
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2011, 01:02:54 am »

T17 stun was much longer bro =)

3 seconds isnt even 1 shot worth of time.
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2011, 03:34:18 am »

the only problem with hetzer ambush is that it can't rotate while in ambush.
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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2011, 03:47:51 am »

it can if you have T3 before apcr,why take hetzer if you dont have apcr?
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2011, 03:52:19 am »

that t3 sucks balls. rotating ambush should be standard.
even the pak 38 can do it.
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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2011, 04:46:31 am »

the only problem with hetzer ambush is that it can't rotate while in ambush.

the only problem  with hetzer  ambush is that it  wont penetrate  a sherman  frontaly...
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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2011, 08:25:34 am »

the only problem  with hetzer  ambush is that it  wont penetrate  a sherman  frontaly...

in fact, the hetzer ambush bonusses are:
x2 dmg
x1.5 dmg
x1.25 acc

m18 bonus is:
x1.5 dmg
x1.5 pen


The long range pen. of hetzer vs sherma is 0.501
at ambush it will always penetrate a sherman
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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2011, 08:34:59 am »

That i will say is not true, i used hetzers with APCR ambush and rotating fire many times and yet it quite often bounces off of the front armor of sherms.
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« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2011, 08:42:52 am »

lies. might be doctrine buffed shermans. vet does not change it.
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Demon767 Offline
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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2011, 09:06:21 am »

It's weird when the Hetzer bounces off M10s and M18s
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2011, 09:20:06 am »

It's weird when the Hetzer bounces off M10s and M18s

It doesn't do that. Ever.
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2011, 10:45:43 am »

in fact, the hetzer ambush bonusses are:
x2 dmg
x1.5 dmg
x1.25 acc

m18 bonus is:
x1.5 dmg
x1.5 pen


The long range pen. of hetzer vs sherma is 0.501
at ambush it will always penetrate a sherman

x2 pen
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8thRifleRegiment Offline
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« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2011, 02:43:50 pm »

x2 pen

it gets damage bonus too. its 50% more damage out of ambush
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« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2011, 02:53:33 pm »

it gets damage bonus too. its 50% more damage out of ambush
Hes corecting leophone. Not saying its only 2x pen.
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« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2011, 02:55:37 pm »

Hes corecting leophone. Not saying its only 2x pen.

im not correcting him, im just adding more.

he crosses out the damage modoifier it gets without specifying its replacement, i was simply doing that
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« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2011, 03:06:08 pm »

Jack only corrected the 2x damage to 2x pen, he left the 1.5x damage intact.

Wtf you on about?
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DarkSoldierX Offline
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« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2011, 03:08:41 pm »

Alright, back ontopic, I think this TH is a good one.

Just support it with a shrek squad or a light ATHT with treadbreaker and hes fine for flanking M10's. Especialy now that M10's don't have gaurenteed pen. vs hetzer.
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Demon767 Offline
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« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2011, 05:44:50 pm »

It doesn't do that. Ever.

It does do it, open your eyes.
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