Smokaz
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« on: August 03, 2011, 10:56:06 am » |
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(Just a general discussion, not balance)
I find the new slow to be less tactical than before. It now sports what seems like a medium damage boost with suppression not really affecting anything more protected than riflemen out of cover.
This also means that it's not the AB/Ranger stopper it used to be. Rangers take almost zero damage from any PE inf weapon at long range, which is as far as they need to go to harass your vehicles and tanks with their bazookas. Getting slowed used to be a big deal for the elite inf, it was one ability they couldn't just fireup out of it. Which meant if they overextended, anti infantry weapons could take them out.
It also removes a anti-sniper tool from PE where if the ab/mando/ami sniper was short-sighted enough to position and fire enough from less than their max range to your g43s, a quick mouse click could slow him thus hindering his escape and "tracking him".
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DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 11:03:19 am » |
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You mean slow G43 or insta-surpress through smoke G43?
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Smokaz
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 11:04:17 am » |
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The old "slow", aka the unique ability with no supression but forced them to walk
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DarkSoldierX
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 11:06:59 am » |
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Yes old slow was great vs fireup infantry. It pretty much negates the speed of fireup so you can get away and get even.
Newest slow and OP slow isn't as effective vs suppression resistant infantry.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 11:08:23 am » |
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plus it was tactical, you sacrified the DPS of a pgren squad for the reduced mobility of the target
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BigDick
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 11:32:50 am » |
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old slow wasn't good either imho
that g43 suppression should be buffed to level of bar suppression and it would own
the current slow/suppression doesn't do much suppression need to be able to pin squads
imho both abilities (bar suppression and g43 suppression) should be changed to target only 1 squad (like old slow) and make it pinned after some time
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 11:52:30 am » |
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G43 slow NERFS dps just like BAR SF nerfs DPS.
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Spartan_Marine88
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2011, 11:56:28 am » |
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G43 slow NERFS dps just like BAR SF nerfs DPS.
unless you take top tier 3
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2011, 12:07:21 pm » |
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stop being a smartass
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Smokaz
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2011, 12:09:22 pm » |
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who cares if the coding elite will grace us lowly gnats with responses like this and the other
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Spartan_Marine88
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2011, 12:43:49 pm » |
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imho both abilities (bar suppression and g43 suppression) should be changed to target only 1 squad (like old slow) and make it pinned after some time
As bar suppression is, you gotta be either real unlucky or a real idiot to get multiple squads suppressed by one rifle squad
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Smokaz
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2011, 12:54:02 pm » |
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*crazywr raises hand for a moment, then backs down
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SaintPauli
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2011, 01:12:01 pm » |
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Instead of talking about adding in slow again we should be talking about removing the secondary 400% buff on suppression or just removing BAR/G43 suppression entirely…
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LeoPhone
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2011, 01:33:47 pm » |
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As bar suppression is, you gotta be either real unlucky or a real idiot to get multiple squads suppressed by one rifle squad
In fact when a squad gets suppressed by the riflesquad their priority drops and the squad starts suppressing another squad by itself. You will suppress pretty much every single squad around you just by pressing the SF button.
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SaintPauli
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2011, 01:48:02 pm » |
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In fact when a squad gets suppressed by the riflesquad their priority drops and the squad starts suppressing another squad by itself. You will suppress pretty much every single squad around you just by pressing the "I WIN BUTTON".
Fixed...
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BigDick
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2011, 02:06:51 pm » |
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yeah its an iwinbutton but only because you can trololol all infantry near to you
it would have some tactical use if you can use it only on one squad
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