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EliteGren
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Posts: 6106
Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #20 on:
October 20, 2011, 12:20:02 pm »
Quote from: 8thRifleRegiment on October 20, 2011, 12:11:34 pm
no becuase essentialy your getting the old airbourne riflemen that were in eirr before, IE the airbourne supermen.
BARs made them supermen. You can't buy bars on them. Allow me to give minimalist feedback on the strength of this T4:
Fail
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WildZontar
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #21 on:
October 20, 2011, 05:09:44 pm »
I still don't understand why we have AB Riflemen and plain old AB, what stats do they have that seperate the two besides Garands? Furthermore, if you've noticed, people have complained about a lack of options on the Allied side.
Why is it we can just combined the two units? Wouldn't that be the first step onto solving the problem? One unit, with upgrades from both units seems a lot more viable.
Airborne
Grenades
RR
Satchels
BARS (Non SF)
If you make a unit with those upgrades, you can easily remove the LMG from the AB doctrine, give it to something more useful like Riflemen on the Infantry or Armor and give the AB something thats beneficial like Grease Guns, which complements their armor type. Heck, I don't understand why we aren't doing these kind of things, is there a huge balance problem I am missing?
Top T4 is lackluster even compared to Infantry and Armor. Top T4 of AB? Give them Garands, -20 on drop time, and -60s on Firefup, wee, that's really great compared to Top T4 of Infantry which gives light vehicles/tank destroyers -15% moving accuracy. Shermans have -1s on reload as well a 35 aura buff that reduces accuracy and supression by 15% and 50%, +5% range on Croc and 240s for SF and fireup, not to mention the aura buffs from the officer which gives it a 35m radius, +20% accuracy, and 33% supression.
Now, there's clearly something wrong with this picture I believe.
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EliteGren
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #22 on:
October 20, 2011, 06:36:28 pm »
Quote from: WildZontar on October 20, 2011, 05:09:44 pm
I still don't understand why we have AB Riflemen and plain old AB, what stats do they have that seperate the two besides Garands?
Airborne riflemen are just that, airborne riflemen. They are riflemen with parachutes (which means compared to an AB squad a different armor type and less health). They are there so AB players can make their mainline infantry paradrop instead of having a whole company of elite infantry spam.
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Poppi
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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October 20, 2011, 10:06:40 pm »
Quote from: 8thRifleRegiment on October 20, 2011, 12:11:34 pm
no becuase essentialy your getting the old airbourne riflemen that were in eirr before, IE the airbourne supermen.
but with everyone running around with stgs now. What good would garands do? May as well keep on running away. Shoot my Rangers take casualties now vs 1 gren squad. 2... forget about it.
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Tymathee
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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October 21, 2011, 06:58:23 am »
Quote from: EliteGren on October 20, 2011, 12:20:02 pm
BARs made them supermen. You can't buy bars on them. Allow me to give minimalist feedback on the strength of this T4:
Fail
4-man kch, nuff said. 1 ab rifleman would easily lose to a 4 man kch. heck, 4 normal ab squads with no nades would lose to a single 4 man kch.
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AmPM
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #25 on:
October 21, 2011, 09:36:32 am »
Wait, are people still complaining they can't counter dedicated AI units with AB?
Really?
Get a fucking M8 and trololol those KCH/Grens/Etc, then when his P4 rolls up hit it with the pile of RR's.
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tank130
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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October 21, 2011, 09:44:41 am »
roflmao:
I think most people here would agree that I am mostly fail at playing EiRR.
I am playing a level 9 AB company and doing well. I have a positive win lose ratio.
You players that claim you are so awesome, should have no problem kicking ass with AB.
Or maybe you are not as great as you claim.......
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8thRifleRegiment
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #27 on:
October 21, 2011, 09:46:31 am »
the airbourne doctrine looks junk on paper, but its epic ingame
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smurfORnot
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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October 21, 2011, 10:43:43 am »
lol
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Poppi
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #29 on:
October 21, 2011, 11:29:21 am »
Quote from: 8thRifleRegiment on October 21, 2011, 09:46:31 am
the airbourne doctrine looks junk on paper, but its epic ingame
i thought it was opposite
I liked how the bottom specialty looked. +6 pop, pop smoke on sprint, cloak support teams, penalty to enemy call time, garand snipe rifle.
Not sure they all work though. And still a lot of complaints.
The other ones though didnt look as tempting thats for sure
Nijo runs an awesome AB company. But sine he just uses snipers and RR, i think he could do that with the old build regardless.
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MorkaandBorka
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #30 on:
October 21, 2011, 11:29:35 am »
Quote from: 8thRifleRegiment on October 21, 2011, 09:46:31 am
the airbourne doctrine looks junk on paper, but its epic ingame
not...
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MorkaandBorka
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #31 on:
October 21, 2011, 11:30:15 am »
Quote from: Poppi on October 21, 2011, 11:29:21 am
i thought it was opposite
I liked how the bottom specialty looked. +6 pop, pop smoke on sprint, cloak support teams, penalty to enemy call time, garand snipe rifle.
Not sure they all work though. And still a lot of complaints.
The other ones though didnt look as tempting thats for sure
Nijo runs an awesome AB company. But sine he just uses snipers and RR, i think he could do that with the old build regardless.
nijo is a jacker, fucking copy cat
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Poppi
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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October 21, 2011, 11:33:18 am »
Quote from: MorkaandBorka on October 21, 2011, 11:30:15 am
nijo is a jacker, fucking copy cat
so?
Just saying he can run a good AB company regardless of this new doc.
Overall ya AB needs to be redone.
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PonySlaystation
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #33 on:
October 21, 2011, 11:48:42 am »
Quote from: 8thRifleRegiment on October 21, 2011, 09:46:31 am
the airbourne doctrine looks junk on paper, but its even worse ingame
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #34 on:
October 21, 2011, 12:05:23 pm »
Quote from: tank130 on October 21, 2011, 09:44:41 am
roflmao:
I think most people here would agree that I am mostly fail at playing EiRR.
I am playing a level 9 AB company and doing well. I have a positive win lose ratio.
You players that claim you are so awesome, should have no problem kicking ass with AB.
Or maybe you are not as great as you claim.......
what T4 are you running?
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MorkaandBorka
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Posts: 1464
Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #35 on:
October 21, 2011, 12:38:40 pm »
Quote from: PonySlaystation on October 21, 2011, 11:48:42 am
/fixed
lololollllllllll
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tank130
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #36 on:
October 21, 2011, 04:29:29 pm »
Quote from: RikiRude on October 21, 2011, 12:05:23 pm
what T4 are you running?
Cloak HMG with hold fire. Wait until enemy is too close to run away.....bam
Try to take out my pesky mortar when you can't find it.
Cloaked 57mmm - gg
Not only that, but 1/3 of my T4 doesn't even work yet and I am still winning games.
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DarkSoldierX
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Posts: 3015
Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #37 on:
October 21, 2011, 04:36:55 pm »
Doesn't change that the mid t4 and top t4 suck.
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EliteGren
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Re: [AB] Death From Above
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Reply #38 on:
October 21, 2011, 05:19:49 pm »
lol -360 pp
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MorkaandBorka
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Posts: 1464
Re: [AB] Death From Above
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October 21, 2011, 06:57:48 pm »
Quote from: tank130 on October 21, 2011, 04:29:29 pm
Not only that, but 1/3 of my T4 doesn't even work yet and I am still winning games.
Unbeliveable...
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