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[lionel23]

All right, a bunch of us experimented tonight with a pure rifles v volks fight, and I have to say defintiely was different and fun, and a learning experience (no hard feelings axis on that 2nd game).  I decided to make this post so the rules can be agreed on after playtesting to try these games in the future.

Here are the confirmed rules that will have to be allowed:
Allies - Riflemen only
Axis - Volks only
Backcapping is allowed
Buildings CANNOT be entered

Modifications to Rules (need your guys thoughts and opinions on these options:
1. Allow volks to build defenses?  Allow riflemen to build defenses (requires T1 unlock and US inf choice).
2. VIP Assassination Game - Kill the officer to win the game
    Allow ONE Defensive player to take T3 for AOE supervision, allowed to buy ONE Wehr Officer
    Allow ONE US player to buy a single American officer, no doctrines upgrades allowed.
3. Player "Hero" squad - Allow every player one purchase of a single HERO Assault infantry with as many upgrades of your choice on the one squad
    Allow US Players purchase of rangers with SMGs + Grenades
    Allow Wehr Players purchase of 4-man KCH with Assault Nades, MAYBE medkits?
4. Allow British and Panzer Elite armies to be selected
    British allowed only: Tommies or Sappers (no upgrades, no officers)
    Panzer allowed only: PGrens, Luft Infantry (no upgrades)
5. Allow British/Panzer Heroes:
    British: Commandoes with SMG + Nades
    Panzer Elite: Assault Flamen with Flame Nades + Sprint

[DarkSoldierX]

2. Def with AOE T3 is more powerful in this matchup

3.  Due to Assault nades the 4 man KCH would kill much more than the US rangers would kill

4. Pgrens would dominate the battlefield, they are cheaper then grens, yet provide better DPS then grens, with the same survivability. They would be the ultamite basic infantry unit. (which I still think they are too cheap for EiR) And Luftwaffe will probably be a bit too weak

5. Commandoes would be stronger then the assault flammen

[8thRifleRegiment]

2. Def with AOE T3 is more powerful in this matchup

3.  Due to Assault nades the 4 man KCH would kill much more than the US rangers would kill

4. Pgrens would dominate the battlefield, they are cheaper then grens, yet provide better DPS then grens, with the same survivability. They would be the ultamite basic infantry unit. (which I still think they are too cheap for EiR) And Luftwaffe will probably be a bit too weak

5. Commandoes would be stronger then the assault flammen

commandos are 6 man tommies they just get smoke, they have the EXACT SAME RIFLES.... and pgrens are just grens, they are a tad weaker, thier rifles are the exact same. Please Dark. Just stop. ALSO theres a thing called micro which smg rangers can rape assaulting 4man kch. you just through the kch sqaud then back through and by the time hes done assaulting, hes dead

[EliteGren]

What? Since when do Panzergrenadiers use Elite Kar98s? ubad

[lionel23]

My understanding was they were weaker DPS wise than grens with volks rifle, am I right?

[RikiRude]

officer with T3 would be too much.

i think us officer just helps suppression and received suppression or RS and accuracy? which i think would balance out to the def officers +20% damage and accuracy.

i rather see no officers or anything, just infantry being able to build stuff. but id probably just blob everything together and hunt down the units.

[kwiatekkek]

4. Pgrens would dominate the battlefield, they are cheaper then grens, yet provide better DPS then grens, with the same survivability.

lol keep  tryin.

[nugnugx]

they are cheaper then grens, yet provide better DPS then grens

You're such a noob darksoldier.

[Mister Schmidt]

All you scrubs l2readrgd's tbh

[nugnugx]

All you scrubs l2readrgd's tbh

Gren kar:
S: 5.8 dps
M: 3.8 dps
L: 2.3 dps

overall: 3.5 dps


Pgren kar:
S: 4.5 dps
M: 2.6 dps
L: 1.3 dps

overall: 2.4 dps


What now scrub?

[kwiatekkek]

pwnd..

[Mister Schmidt]

That's my point you retard

[Hicks58]

PzGrens K98k is the middle ground between the Volks and the Grens. It has the same accuracy as the Volks, but with 15% more accuracy against Infantry armour. It has better close range cool down but worse long range cool down, and does 2 more damage per shot.

Apart from that, the PzGrens are more or less the same as Volks for weapon stats.

[DarkSoldierX]

Complete idiots, I know what mysthalin meant about retards -_-

Nubnub is wrong in 95% of what he says, why ever even consider his post.
Mister Schdmit, you worked for RGDs, how the hell can you get this wrong? Nowonder your not the dev team anymore   seeing that you look at nubnubs post and not realize that he failed to put in 3 very important factors
kwiatekkek   you    stfu   nao    nub

Now do I really need to fully explain why Panzergren dps vs infantry armour is 8.60871130151% higher then grenadier dps at close range?

Or should I tell you guys how you fail so hard.

[nugnugx]

hahaha failsoldier failing @ eir, typical of him  


also darknoob you forgot to add Elitegren.

[deadbolt]

sounds like a fun idea, i dont think 4 man kch should get med kits though, if they do rangers should be able to use field dressings, not that i think that is quite on par with medkits but just to even it out

[deadbolt]

the temptation to build a croc core though would be so overwhelming

[nugnugx]

Now do I really need to fully explain why Panzergren dps vs infantry armour is 8.60871130151% higher then grenadier dps at close range?

i've done some calculations right now and no matter what you will do  vgrens will always have atleast 0.6 more dps than vpgrens on close range with the one leader rifle and g43 and much more on medium and long.

U FAIL, you got totaly destroyed by everyone, if i were you i would go back to your troll cave and not show up for a long time.

[marda145]

Still, tommies>>>>>>volks

[DarkSoldierX]

i've done some calculations right now and no matter what you will do  vgrens will always have atleast 0.6 more dps than vpgrens on close range with the one leader rifle and g43 and much more on medium and long.

U FAIL, you got totaly destroyed by everyone, if i were you i would go back to your troll cave and not show up for a long time.

Omg what a noob lol. Let me give you a hint why your stupid and wrong.

It starts with a T.

Yeah I totally got destroyed by everyone 

The fact you guys compared pgren kars which only half the squad carries is a complete joke.


Where is mysty when you need him?