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[Smokaz]

Mortar HT > Locked & loaded

[Heartmann]

I used L&L to bufff sniper, built entire coy around the unit, work great untill the new terror doc was implemented, then not so good ^^

[brn4meplz]

and rifles. dont think it affected rangers. but yeah, cohesion hmgs would shrug off assault lamo

When the previous doctrine abilities were reviewed, it was inconclusive that cohesion ever actually worked. Though it would have been nice.

A lot of the old doctrines had a lot of the placebo quotient

[Poppi]

Mortar HT > Locked & loaded

my experience with US mortars after like 60 games of LnL really hoping 81mm mortars got better due to buff was that they were just as bad as standard mortars. Which is a bad since the t4 is meant to make the support units something fearse or rather should

But snipers got a good buff. Basically they were like vet 3 snipers. Still not as good as a AB sniper though.

[Tymathee]

When the previous doctrine abilities were reviewed, it was inconclusive that cohesion ever actually worked. Though it would have been nice.

A lot of the old doctrines had a lot of the placebo quotient

lol seriously? insane.

[brn4meplz]

Range only marginally affects a Mortars performance. I say this because my British 2in Mortars always perform fantastically and they've got like 50 range or some shit.

Try asking for a Damage increase instead of a range buff. It would probably go farther.

[Smokaz]

the conclusion is as following:

- the ai component of L&L is not as good as other buffs, AND harder to manage/micro
- the moving howitzer is so slow, that its meaningless; it can't even attempt to dodge a hummel barrage after firing
- the at component is done better by other doctrines as well
- american mortar vastly outmatched as a damage-dealer/countermortar even with these buffs
- mortar HT and bikes being good enough to murder 100% of the buffed units

[EliteGren]

I don't see why you can't allow howitzers to move at AT gun speed

[Poppi]

the conclusion is as following:

- the ai component of L&L is not as good as other buffs, AND harder to manage/micro
- the moving howitzer is so slow, that its meaningless; it can't even attempt to dodge a hummel barrage after firing
- the at component is done better by other doctrines as well
- american mortar vastly outmatched as a damage-dealer/countermortar even with these buffs
- mortar HT and bikes being good enough to murder 100% of the buffed units

yahhh. While the t4 offfers a good % to the buffs. But It isnt enough since it only helps supports instead of the main line. If MGs and mortars got a SUPER buff to damage and suppressing then ya it will justify the limited buffed units. Othewise it only helps a  small amount of support units. Maybe less than 1/10 of your company will reap any benefit of the t4. And that 1/1 aint doing that much better.

quicker reload times (20%) will mix things up i think. or make it op? but since it only affect non assault infantry and such a small part of a company. it might not be op

[Tymathee]

and now with weapon cache, it may be even more "useless" because now you can't have a ton of support weapons since each one costs cache points