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[TheVolskinator]

Marder IS fine. But read the first 2 pages and its made out to be the worst thing on earth. Context smurf, sweet, sweet context.

[PartyJaeger]

I think you misread Volksi, I love marder - best AT in game. I am actually dissapointed that geshutz is not at least its lesser sibling...

[Spartan_Marine88]

I think you misread Volksi, I love marder - best AT in game. I am actually dissapointed that geshutz is not at least its lesser sibling...

geshutz is almost as good at as the marder, and it has a STUG mg, The stug mg is the best tank mg in the game

[Hicks58]

Alright, just checked the statistics.

Marder and Geschitz are identical in the following regards:

Accuracy, Penetration, Target tables, Range, AOE, Cooldown, Moving modifiers.

The only glaring differences are in the following:

Damage - 150 (Marder) 185 (Geschitz)

Reload - 4 (Marder) 7.5 (Geschitz)

Now, the Marder feels like it penetrates more reliably because of the fact that it can lock down, which increases penetration.

On the other hand, rapid fire shells reduces reload by 0.5 making the Geschitz pour out higher damage rounds every 3.75 seconds.

Essentially, unless your using rapid fire rounds to hammer a target, the Geschitz is hit and fade while the Marder plays area denial in true ATG fashion.

[PartyJaeger]

however only about anecdoticalů level, marder mises 1 of 5 rounds, geshit 3 of 5 to my experience

[Hicks58]

Dice rolls my man.

CoH is a bastard for having lady luck give you the finger.

[aeroblade56]

Try having  a G-wagon vs a pershing GG pershing GG

[Tymathee]

generally, if a long range weapon engages a lot of tanks, its GG unless that unit has good speed.

I miss my speedy pershings...and my uberfast m18's, lulz.

7.8x.25 = like 10 or somethin, it was insane watching them zoom.

[aeroblade56]

generally, if a long range weapon engages a lot of tanks, its GG unless that unit has good speed.

I miss my speedy pershings...and my uberfast m18's, lulz.

7.8x.25 = like 10 or somethin, it was insane watching them zoom.

well i mean. a tiger can effectivaly take out one atg and bounce a few shots its not recomended but it will do it. pershing cant really counter a atg for some reason that thing has terrible accuracy vs atg. Dont G wagons get a big damage increase vs the pershing?

[smurfORnot]

Marder IS fine. But read the first 2 pages and its made out to be the worst thing on earth. Context smurf, sweet, sweet context.

umm? marder is not even mentioned first 2 pages 
and from what I read,no one is complaining about marder,you were actually the only one who mentioned it to suck ass 

Marder and Gesh suck ass

[Zamochit]

is Volks and Tym ruining one of my threads again?

[Tymathee]

No, i'm improving it.

[Smokaz]

is Volks and Tym ruining one of my threads again?

apparently you attract this kind of audience

[Tymathee]

apparently you attract this kind of audience

don't hate, he's got some good stuff, I want the 105 Sherman

[NightRain]

Jagdpanther gains Hetzer Ambush. YES PLEASE

[brn4meplz]

You have no idea how close that ability has been in the past NightRain.

It's been on the table numerous times in the past 2 years.

[NightRain]

You have no idea how close that ability has been in the past NightRain.

It's been on the table numerous times in the past 2 years.

Was someone too lazy to code it up or what?

[Tymathee]

You have no idea how close that ability has been in the past NightRain.

It's been on the table numerous times in the past 2 years.

why has it been taken off the table? it's not like it would make it epic, would kinda cripple it in a way but would be pretty sweet, especially if u include that model.

Was someone too lazy to code it up or what?

easy to code, even I could do it.

[brn4meplz]

The damage a Jagd can do under the proper circumstances is really good. Adding an ambush into that is over the top. The Jagd clearly doesn't need penetration buffs so that part of Ambush is moot.

Sure it could use more damage, but in the past we've always had other things that gave damage to it(like Officer Supervision buffs for example)

To have the Jagd be more then a Joke/insult with Ambush it needs something above your stock benefits. While a Hetzer benefits from both Damage and penetration nicely the Jagd has those in abundance. It would need to (for example) Crit, Cripple, Stun, Through and through(penetrate and exit and hit again).

[tank130]

easy to code, even I could do it.

ummmm....... you were in the coding department for over a month and achieved absolutely zero. Please do not over estimate your abilities.....LOL