NightRain
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« on: April 07, 2012, 09:44:19 am » |
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300 manpower 300 munition (+ other upgrades if one wants them) 5 pop on field. Big munition dump high risk reward but is ultimately powerful in the reward department.
So I purpose this change:
Allow Stormtroopers only buy 1 Schreck only. Maybe allow 2nd through doctrine, but vanilla Stormtroopers 1 Schreck upgrade only. It reduces the double Storms alpha striking a unit but still allows Stormtroopers to ambush vehicles.
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 09:51:34 am » |
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why would I want them for only 1 shreck?
having 10 pop,to get 2 shrecks,which aint gonna be amazing,cant kill tank,cant kill atg,dont wanna rly engage infantry,just dont see the point of it. How much time do you see people buying only 1 shreck on them? Rarely.
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| NightRain
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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2012, 09:54:09 am » |
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why would I want them for only 1 shreck?
having 10 pop,to get 2 shrecks,which aint gonna be amazing,cant kill tank,cant kill atg,dont wanna rly engage infantry,just dont see the point of it. How much time do you see people buying only 1 shreck on them? Rarely.
You still get one or two advantages over Grenadier Schrecks. 1. Better health 2. Cloak With these two buffs, you can engage tank by going in closer than with a Grenadier Schreck and take in the ambushing shot. It also fixes one thing. Alpha strike which is powerful as heck. Actually it is breaking the balance for being more powerful than anything else. 240 + 240 damage from one volley. Just because 1 weapon slot is taken it doesn't mean it can't fight infantry. It has 3 of the second best rifle's in game. Kar98s. You can still defeat a rifle squad from cover with them, plus with higher health and access to medkits you can still perform two roles with one role (AT) higher and other one (AI) slightly lower. |
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 09:58:20 am » |
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those shreks misses everyting for long range and sometimes even misses in short range so i don't think its a good idea ,to kill atguns u need 3 shrek shots and u need to mighty close so it will be a big risk with 1 shrek where 2 shreks not doing the damn job 100%.
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 09:59:48 am » |
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well,try them with only 1 shreck, tell us how it goes replacing your grens with storms.
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AmPM
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2012, 10:00:25 am » |
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Or just add more Infantry Awareness to things like Jeeps/Bikes etc.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2012, 10:05:21 am » |
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tankedit: Cant bully my employees on eastern.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2012, 11:29:14 am » |
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DOnt schreks have massive good medium and long range accuracy?. i mean to take out a atg and bring up a tiger to defend your stormies from a hmg or what not is still powerfull. and the ability to cloak all units but the 1 currently being shot at is kinda iffy.
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 11:48:53 am » |
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DOnt schreks have massive good medium and long range accuracy? LOL |
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2012, 12:05:46 pm » |
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LOL
LOL. if i am correct they are better at medium and long then zooks and worse then zooks at short. |
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2012, 12:28:50 pm » |
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LOL. if i am correct they are better at medium and long then zooks and worse then zooks at short.
Shreks are far better than zooks at all ranges. |
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Malgoroth
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 12:48:49 pm » |
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They are more expensive and their platform doesn't have fire-up to save them when shit gets real.
Also, "better at medium and long than zooks" doesn't equate to "massive good medium and long range accuracy".
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| Vermillion_Hawk
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2012, 01:50:48 pm » |
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I wholly agree with the idea. Stormtroopers are incredibly useful and powerful and hopefully this will help curb their widespread usage, while also at the same time ensuring that Blitzkreig players have to specialize their doctrine selection to keep the same level of tank destruction.
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2012, 02:12:44 pm » |
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incredibly useful and powerful,yes,also,all you need is one lucky shot of arty to loose 300-600mun  |
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Hicks58
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« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2012, 02:36:01 pm » |
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Shreck has following accuracy:
1 - Short
0.75 - Medium
0.35 - Long
Bazooka has the following:
1 - Short
0.65 - Medium
0.35 - Long
Target tables are pretty up in arms but in general, the Bazooka is more accurate against unskirted targets while Shrecks have the advantage - over Bazookas firing at skirted targets.
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I mean I know Obama was the first one in EiR to get a card. and tbfh the Race card is pretty OP. but Romney has the K.K.K., those guys seem to camo anywhere. So OP units from both sides.
At the end of the day, however, stormtroopers finally got the anal invasion with a cactus they have richly deserved for years.
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2012, 02:45:31 pm » |
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and which allied tanks are skirted?
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Hicks58
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2012, 02:55:05 pm » |
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None are.
Updated the punctuation so it confuses you less.
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2012, 03:33:35 pm » |
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so basically,they have almost same accuracy.
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Hicks58
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2012, 03:45:32 pm » |
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No.
Ugh, christ Smurf.
Bazooka vs unskirted targets > Shreck vs all targets
Shreck vs all targets > Bazooka vs skirted targets
Also, Shrecks are better with medium range.
Make sense yet?
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TheVolskinator
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« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2012, 04:41:42 pm » |
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Shrecks' higher dmg and penetration =
Shreck > bazooka vs everything.
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