NightRain
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« on: April 19, 2012, 10:22:57 pm » |
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In the past these Boys AT weapons were different variants and were noteably worse than the British Rifles however as I don't know how the check it up properly I decided to ask from Community.
Are the AT Rifles what Luftwaffe Gets same as The British AT Rifles? Or are there difference? If there is difference is it intended?
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Shabtajus
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2012, 04:00:17 am » |
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stop being axisfanboy, go play brits and check it out is this the same gun tbh  |
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| NightRain
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 04:23:02 am » |
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They were meant to be the same gun however when Boys AT was changed and became useless it was changed once again to make it what it currently is, from the past I heard that Luftwaffen upgrade however DIDN'T get this change and was left in the bad status it currently is in which is why I started this thread to ask incase it is still the unupgraded Boys AT rifle or not as I'm unable to check it myself.
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| smurfORnot
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 04:42:10 am » |
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waste of T1 compared to recon run and falls/luft  |
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2012, 05:49:53 am » |
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imo The Rifles still hurt TD and my cromwells are never safe. they will penetrate m10m18 frontally and cromwell maybe. as far as i know the british one bounces a odd time off marder frontal and can only penetrate p4 from rear.
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| NightRain
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2012, 05:55:33 am » |
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imo The Rifles still hurt TD and my cromwells are never safe. they will penetrate m10m18 frontally and cromwell maybe. as far as i know the british one bounces a odd time off marder frontal and can only penetrate p4 from rear.
27% chance to penetrate TD from front from rear will always penetrate. The issue with the Boys AT Rifle (Older model) is that it had obscurd reload, aim time and so on it taking around awful ammount of time between shots and were practically useless. It was when they removed the ANti infantry cabilities from boys At rifles that they accidentally turned it to complete crap. Later on they changed the British rifle but forgot to change the PE one as far as I know. So the question still remains. Is PE AT Rifle same as the current British AT Rifle? |
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2012, 06:37:58 am » |
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Think they are the same or they feel and look the same.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2012, 07:17:09 am » |
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far as i know, they use the exact same gun.
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2012, 08:05:51 am » |
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They are the same(now)
You are right in there was a time where they were different and the PE one took 10 seconds to fire each shot and 3 seconds to reload.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2012, 08:42:38 am » |
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is it usefull? is it safe?
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| NightRain
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 08:58:13 am » |
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It has its uses.
With luftwaffen T3 giving 1 additional more of those things you get solid 3 AT Rifles for a volksgrenadier like squad. Versus light vehicles- I don't recommend charging them with LVs. 2x squads with 3 of those hits quite awfully hard. 360 damage solid if all hit and penetrate. Its a dead M8, T17. It has weaker chance against stuart armor that the staghound uses though. 27% chance to frontally penetrate a M10 but 100% penetration from the rear. Gentlemen, it is almost a change of metagame.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2012, 10:39:57 am » |
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yeah for axis. try penetrating anything above a stug with those pfffftttt. only good for PE but zooks already take the cake there.
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Mister Schmidt
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2012, 10:50:31 am » |
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Hell no, I'd take Boys Rifles over Zooks against PE anyday.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2012, 10:52:46 am » |
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If you cant kill stuff with Boys or Zooks youre doing it wrong. According to some less-then-intelligent axis fanbois.
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Tymathee
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2012, 10:59:44 am » |
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Hell no, I'd take Boys Rifles over Zooks against PE anyday.
agreed, mainly for the lower scatter. |
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2012, 11:00:07 am » |
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Boys at have the same low scatter as rr's and they will always pen a stug or p4 in the rear much like a zook will. Difference is they will always hit the rear.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2012, 11:43:33 am » |
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yeah but the damage feels defferent i feel like Zook when they hit the rear do as much as schreks do frontally. boys at from rear. meh
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Tymathee
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« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2012, 12:08:27 pm » |
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Boys at have the same low scatter as rr's and they will always pen a stug or p4 in the rear much like a zook will. Difference is they will always hit the rear.
yeah but the damage feels defferent i feel like Zook when they hit the rear do as much as schreks do frontally. boys at from rear. meh
damage is diff. I think boys at do 50 dmg and dont have any bonuses, while zooks get bonuses against armor like 1.20, 1.25 and even 1.5 (so 75x1.5x2) Basically, you use Boys AT vs light vehicles and tanks if needed. It's only a 13.9mm bullet. |
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2012, 12:18:53 pm » |
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I had a luftwaffe squad in ambush take my t17 down to 5% in one volley. Just putting that out there
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| NightRain
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« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2012, 12:32:41 pm » |
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damage is diff. I think boys at do 50 dmg and dont have any bonuses, while zooks get bonuses against armor like 1.20, 1.25 and even 1.5 (so 75x1.5x2)
Basically, you use Boys AT vs light vehicles and tanks if needed. It's only a 13.9mm bullet.
You 'think' I know. It is still 60 damage per shot. |
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