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[DarkSoldierX]

Sounds badass, I would love to see the eastern front and how snow will change gameplay.

[Demon767]

Sigh, Eastern fail

[Vermillion_Hawk]

Yeah sorry gentlemen, you can't play as 'MURICA anymore, big loss.

If you think the Nazis are a lesser evil than the Russians you are even more ignorant than previously proved AmPM.

On the subject of the game, realistic line-of-sight is something I've been dying to see in this game for a long time. No more parking a motorcycle behind a building and somehow being able to see over it.

[Audemed]

Fuck yeah.

[PonySlaystation]

If you think the Nazis are a lesser evil than the Russians you are even more ignorant than previously proved AmPM.

Read some history why don't you.

[Sachaztan]

Read some history why don't you.

About that...

[Unkn0wn]

Technically Stalin killed a lot more people than Hitler ever did, but I wouldn't go so far as to name one a 'lesser' evil, that just exhibits poor taste.

So enough with this history nonsense, get back on topic.

[Tymathee]

woo, realistic line of sight! that would be epic for EIR. There is a script out there for it, I wonder what that would be like.

[Stuart750]

Soviets:
- Interned and worked millions of Soviet citizens & prisoners of war.
- Lead by an individual who was politically motivated, but suffered from paranoia. Individual's mental stability deteriorated throughout his political life.
- Targeted political opponents and dissidents, whether apparent or potential.

Nazis:
- Systematically killed specific groups of people, interned other groups of people.
- Lead by an individual who was ideologically motivated, and was specific in who was and was not executed, (American POWs vs Soviet POWs, Western European Jews vs Eastern European Jews, treatment of Slavic peoples vs French/Dutch/Danish/Belgian etc peoples)
- Targeted people based on heritage rather than actions


Both had brutal and deadly secret security/police/paramilitary branches.
Both were hardline dictatorships (arguably less-so with Germany).

The difference between the two is that the Soviet brutality was driven by Stalin's personal will (and psychological condition), while the Nazi's brutality and hatred was infused (although not openly) in their ideology.

Rant over. Game looks very neat and interesting. Looking forwards to seeing what kind of doctrines they have available (Rocket Arty, air support, Heavy armour to fight the germans)

Even more eager to see what new German units they will use (Diff Marders, maybe nashorn, glass jars of bees for infantry)

[tank130]

Take your history lesson some where else please.

Anymore history posts just get deleted.

[LeoPhone]

all history posts from now on will be..... history 

[frankiec]

I wonder how they will balance tanks, the p4 couldn't penetrate medium t34 because its armor was more thick and sloped.
Russians also had more heavy tanks with crazy guns like 122 and 150mm.

[Sachaztan]

I wonder how they will balance tanks, the p4 couldn't penetrate medium t34 because its armor was more thick and sloped.
Russians also had more heavy tanks with crazy guns like 122 and 150mm.

lol

Nug your excellent posts have been sorely missed.

[DarkSoldierX]

I wonder how they will balance tanks, the p4 couldn't penetrate medium t34 because its armor was more thick and sloped.
Russians also had more heavy tanks with crazy guns like 122 and 150mm.

The same way they balanced tanks in the first CoH.

AKA Far from realistic stats and quantity.

[AmPM]

I wonder how they will balance tanks, the p4 couldn't penetrate medium t34 because its armor was more thick and sloped.
Russians also had more heavy tanks with crazy guns like 122 and 150mm.

Depends on the Panzer IV version, the ones that had trouble are basically the IST from vCoH and the PIII. The PzIV F2/G and later could penetrate pretty easily. Then you move into 1942 and the Tiger dominates completely for a couple years.

Should be interesting to see, though it will probably be pretty similar to current vCoH units (T-34 taking the place of the Sherman, with the T-34-85 being the upgun). I'm hoping for a 1941-1943 period though. More units, many more variants, and a lot of stuff we haven't gotten to touch in CoH yet.

Soviets would have Shermans, Stuarts, Grants, Valentines, Matildas, T-34's, KV's vs PzII, PzIII, PzIV earlies, PzIV lates, Tiger, Panther.

[TheVolskinator]

In other news, will CoH2 include all of the current factions?

[tank130]

I like to talk out of my asshole....

Yes because Relic has done so much in the past to prove they are against the modding community........

[TheVolskinator]

r43g killjoy.

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Arent they?
i remember a couple of the patches broke almost all of the mods and made modding the game impossible too at least 1-2 times.

[tank130]

Arent they?
i remember a couple of the patches broke almost all of the mods and made modding the game impossible too at least 1-2 times.

and then they fixed it.......

I would assume if they didn't want modding, they would not fix it.