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Author Topic: [US] Single Zook Rifles  (Read 7225 times)
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« on: July 11, 2012, 02:38:13 pm »

Cost reduction to 40 mun?

It costs 80 for 2 on freakin' rangers. They are fairly useful imo, but I don't think they should be 55 mun. It seems a little high for me.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 02:45:05 pm »

1 on armor is useless tbh you would have to carry 10 pop to make them usefull
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 02:45:52 pm »

With pool costs on upgrades they could definitely get a price decrease. Currently they are priced restrictively to combat riflemen zook spam.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 02:47:25 pm »

With pool costs on upgrades they could definitely get a price decrease. Currently they are priced restrictively to combat riflemen zook spam.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 03:10:00 pm »

Combat Riflemen?!
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 03:11:23 pm »

Can we get panzerfaust to 30 munitions as well?
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2012, 03:12:46 pm »

Combat Riflemen?!

To combat riflemen zook spam. English understanding fail
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2012, 03:14:24 pm »

To combat riflemen zook spam. English understanding fail

Thanks for the correction.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2012, 08:47:07 pm »

wait so if we give them zooks they get buffed to combat riflemen?!!  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 02:22:42 pm »

bump cause i thought price decrease was easy and hasnt been fixed.
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2012, 04:25:08 pm »

No need for a decrease. Rangers are cheaper because they are elite inf and are less readily available. Cheaper for rifles would just result in them spammed in even larger numbers or spammed with nades/stickies. Either way they would be stronger and for no real reason.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2012, 04:30:38 pm »

No need for a decrease. Rangers are cheaper because they are elite inf and are less readily available. Cheaper for rifles would just result in them spammed in even larger numbers or spammed with nades/stickies. Either way they would be stronger and for no real reason.

I feel this Directly Contradicts the Storms/Gren Shreck Pricing Reasoning.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2012, 04:31:33 pm »

No need for a decrease. Rangers are cheaper because they are elite inf and are less readily available. Cheaper for rifles would just result in them spammed in even larger numbers or spammed with nades/stickies. Either way they would be stronger and for no real reason.
Your argument sort of fell apart when the new pool change was implemented. No reason they cant get cheaper now.
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2012, 04:39:09 pm »

THe only reason zooks are good to begin with is TR so i dont see how this would be a problem
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2012, 04:49:21 pm »

Your argument sort of fell apart when the new pool change was implemented. No reason they cant get cheaper now.

What pool change? I dont see how pool could affect this.

I feel this Directly Contradicts the Storms/Gren Shreck Pricing Reasoning.

Wehr is a different faction, that plays a different way to all other factions. Factions arent mirrored, neither should pricing.
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2012, 04:54:23 pm »


Wehr is a different faction, that plays a different way to all other factions. Factions arent mirrored, neither should pricing.


Not asking for a mirror.  But the similarity is quite prevalent. 

Example.  Quad and Puma, both 6 pop cap.  Sherman MG and P4 MG similar priced, But on Panther it costs more. 

More effective units have higher costs on themselves and all associated upgrades.  Its that way across all EIR. 
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2012, 05:01:05 pm »

Its being looked at. It was priced more prohibitively because we didn't have anything else to prevent spam. Now that we have the pool system integrated into weapon upgrades we can look to address the pricing problem.
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2012, 05:39:03 pm »

lol what, a upgrade pool? Where?
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2012, 06:26:27 pm »

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What pool change? I dont see how pool could affect this.
Pricing of a unit or upgrade takes into account various things. Normally it would only be the performance of THAT particular unit or upgrade, and its relation to other similar units or upgrades. But when no external mechanic to combat spam is present, you also need to look at an upgrade's performance when used on a large scale, and price accordingly. I.e a panzerfaust on one volks squad is really no big deal and something you could arguably put at say 30 munitions. (Compare it with other AT pieces, pieces that don't have limited uses, etc) But when someone builds an entire company with 30 mun Fausts, you're suddenly in an entirely different ballgame, really.

Now with upgrade pool costs in place, we can have volks cost more pool when the player purchases a panzerfaust on them. (Which then effects the total amount of infantry you can field in your company, i.e someone who is spamming volks with fausts will get less overall infantry than someone who is just spamming volks.)
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