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Author Topic: Staghound, Puma, CW pool values  (Read 6537 times)
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jackmccrack Offline
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« on: July 30, 2012, 12:47:45 pm »

Last patch, Staghounds were overnerfed. They went from the tankiest light vehicle to one of the more fragile. It's a whopping 100 fuel too.

In fact, a Staghound loses to 2 volks squads w/ faust, as it cannot kill them fast enough.

It's HP is too low, and the Puma outshines it. The upgun Puma has an incredible MG and retains average light vehicle cannon. Its HP is nice and it still dodges. Its vehicle counters cannot bring it down in time.

Lastly, the CW vehicle pool values are 36 across the board. This makes it hard to use creatively their extensive list. WM enjoys 36/36/42 pool value but instead of using them diversely, most players go all one type of vehicle. Can you guess which vehicle that is?
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Let's talk about PIATs in a car.
Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 12:51:56 pm »

 Rage post  Cheesy
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Tries to convince people he's a good guy,says things like this. Scumbag Shab.
aeroblade56 Offline
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 12:56:28 pm »

I agree with some of what he says.

The puma can purchase 1 repair a LV repair that gets it 25 munis gets a nice MG and a good maingun(Ai wise)
The problem with the current puma is that you can bring alot of them with no trouble to the company at the cost of 6 pop you cant really go wrong with the puma.

You can field more support with pumas, every LV in the game is 8 pop The only exception to this is of course the Quad due to it mainly suppresses and deals very low suppression at that when at range.

But the puma with a nice MG a now good maingun with phase armor can run circles round without taking to much damage.

British have a harder time dealing with this, due to piats cant hit moving targers and phase armor phasing Stuart rounds with is a LV killer, and button doesnt work so well on the LV.
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Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 01:03:03 pm »

Another rage post from the same game  Cheesy
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 01:07:20 pm »

Actually, aero, the upgun puma is 8 pop. But its the only Puma you'd want.
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Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 01:09:34 pm »

ok i spammed them and u got pissed, but u guys better ask yourself what do axis feel about LV spam? M8, T17s, stags all shit u can bring on field + capping abilities and mines placing  > upgun pumas so les QQ
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aeroblade56 Offline
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2012, 01:16:04 pm »

thats why AXis have Lv counters.  

Faust are nice ostwinds are nice, storms are nice,  a m8 is pretty not good if something lands a Mg critical. Also i heard this thing that CLown cars with Schreks are good vs them?

Yes the upgun is 8 pop.

The non upgunned is 6 pop.

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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2012, 01:22:58 pm »

thats why AXis have Lv counters.  

Faust are nice ostwinds are nice, storms are nice,  a m8 is pretty not good if something lands a Mg critical. Also i heard this thing that CLown cars with Schreks are good vs them?

Yes the upgun is 8 pop.

The non upgunned is 6 pop.



Stickies, zooks, LVs, Shermans, AP HMGs, etc dont count then? I hear M10's kill LVs.
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Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2012, 01:24:28 pm »

I hear M10's kill LVs.

you hear goof sir
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2012, 01:24:48 pm »

What about CW counters?
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aeroblade56 Offline
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2012, 01:28:41 pm »

Stickies, zooks, LVs, Shermans, AP HMGs, etc dont count then? I hear M10's kill LVs.

can you read dear child i said British plz re read. British have a hard time countering them.
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Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2012, 01:28:50 pm »

actually i was surprised by bren carrier with ap rounds, they kill pumas faster than puma manages deal with it
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2012, 01:34:18 pm »

thank you shab
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Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2012, 01:36:05 pm »

u welcome  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2012, 01:57:36 pm »

can you read dear child i said British plz re read. British have a hard time countering them.

AP Brens, Cromwell, Stuart (Sort of, depends on type of LV), PIAT trench, Bofors, 6pdr, etc
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2012, 02:28:57 pm »

just tried AP brens they kill fast if u get 2 but have terribly slow turning speeds.

Stuart phases alot through the Puma Piats cant hit pumas do to shitty moving accuracy 6pdr phases sometimes mostly gets only 1 shot before gets circled Bofors works good
but is doctrinal
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Tymathee Offline
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2012, 02:55:44 pm »

ap bren + button used to be lol's

I remember i played someone who started with vet 2 puma, buttoned him, hit ap rounds, good bye.

the issue with them is turn speed, it can't track, just go around.
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"I want proof!"
"I have proof!"
"Whatever, I'm still right"

Dafuq man, don't ask for proof if you'll refuse it if it's not in your favor, logic fallacy for the bloody win.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2012, 03:03:19 pm »

I use stags all the time. Please buff more because they're awesome to me. lul
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2012, 04:13:33 pm »

just tried AP brens they kill fast if u get 2 but have terribly slow turning speeds.

Stuart phases alot through the Puma Piats cant hit pumas do to shitty moving accuracy 6pdr phases sometimes mostly gets only 1 shot before gets circled Bofors works good
but is doctrinal



Well here is where player skill comes into effect. This still applies but you don;t need to lead the target as much with the changes to PIAT velocity.


You select the PIAT squad, you issue movement orders(prevents the squad from firing early) until you're ready to fire and then you either hit Attack ground or the Hotkey G. and you lead the target according to it's speed, direction and distance from you. Then you click the ground and watch things take damage and die.

I've done it in multiple matches and had to do it against a former member of the development team because they didn't beleive it was a reliable method to use. I used 2 PIAT squads and destroyed more then 12 Armoured Cars/Pumas before succumbing to Auto Cannon damage
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taco355 Offline
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2012, 05:02:05 pm »

I don't think most people will take the time to do that brn.
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