Allie Vs. Axis vetting

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[nikomas]

Right, is it just me or are allied units just easier to vet up in general, if not, what the heck am I doing so wrong when playing axis?

Brit tanks are by far the easiest to vet up in the game imo, the Crom and Firefly specifically in this case, gotten both to vet 5 more than once now... For comparison, never even had a vet 3 PIV/V/VI/VII.
As for vehicles, Gotten several T17's to vet 4/5 xp levels but never even seen a vet 3 AC/Puma on the field as far as I can remember.
For infantry? My armor coy is littered with vet 1 rifle squads and some vet 2, but I cant seem to keep grenadiers around to even get vet 1 in most cases, I'd think that would be easier since they are tougher but it aint, not for me anyway.

I'm really clueless here, anyone got any idea why this is? As far as I know I'm equally good with all factions. (Aside from PE)

[hans]

well regarding the p4, u got too much allied stuff that can beat it fast. TDs Atguns with ap rounds following...

[nikomas]

I kind of figured like that, the reason croms stay alive is because you can normally overdrive the fuck out of any problem, and in the case of fireflies any decent player has good recon for them, I guess.

Still doenst explain why I cant keep grens alive but rifles are fine, maybe it's because you normally retreat rifles at 2 man while grens are still at 50% strength at 2 man, being liable to instagib at that size...

[DarkSoldierX]

On the P4/Pumas allies tend to have fast counters like the M18 and M10, so it makes sense.

While on the other hand you say you get vetted rifles but not vetted grens? You must use the two differently.

[Tymathee]

Grens need twice as much xp to vet than rifles as well and because they're cheaper and have less pool u can spam them more so u can hide a vet guy in the midst of other lower vet guys.

As for vehicles, allied tanks are generally faster than their axis counterparts and gain more xp upon killing axis units than axis do killing allied units.

Also, this is opinion, axis are generally vehicle driven, so allied player tend to put more focus on killing axis vehicles over infantry while axis focus more on killing alied infantry.

[nikomas]

While on the other hand you say you get vetted rifles but not vetted grens? You must use the two differently.

Not really, one is cannonfodder with shitty rifles and sometimes bars, the other is cannonfodder with better rifles and sometimes elite armor/mp44's, I pretty much use them the exact same way.

[Contaminator]

Makes sense to me. Germans are the pros of the war zone while Allies are the dregs off the streets of New York. Example: greyhound victory shot a panther in the rear and killed it. It hit vet 1.

[deadbolt]

easier to vet as allies cos bearsoul/chaindivision mostly play axis, lolk.

[hans]

nomnomnom nom 

[NightRain]

Allied veterancy is much easier to retain due to larger squad sizes tbh.

[GORKHALI]

ALLIES R SO FUCKING OP THAT IT TAKES SIMPLY NO EFFORT TO VET THEM UP AND AFTER THEY GET TO VET 5 U SIMPLY CAN'T EVEN TOUCH THEM ,...AXIS JUST SUCX MONKEY BALLS

[ALLiDOisWIN]

Gork knows whats up 

[Poppi]

Units with high survivability rate, high armor, high HP, plus high damage shouldnt be easy to vet.  And we all know what side has the most of that. While im sure both sides need some adjusting i dont want to be seeing a vet 4 tiger/panther/KT/KCH every game.

[nikomas]

Units with high survivability rate, high armor, high HP, plus high damage shouldnt be easy to vet.  And we all know what side has the most of that. While im sure both sides need some adjusting i dont want to be seeing a vet 4 tiger/panther/KT/KCH every game.

Like riflemen and T17's? lol

[Tymathee]

Like riflemen and T17's? lol

which one? high survivability, armor, HP or damage?

[SophiaT1991]

I had like 8 vet 3 pumas once, they were just rapage, axis vet is harder to get but better. Like others said, allied AT is wtf rape and plentiful.


Axis inf is hard to get due to numbers and they combat style. Rifles charge units so are close to the opponent and then chase down retreating units, where as axis stay at range so as soon as the rifles retreat they are free once out of range. And 2 men grens are alot more usefull then 2 men rifles.

[nikomas]

which one? high survivability, armor, HP or damage?

Neither has any of them? Well T17 does have speed, that's something.

[Poppi]

Neither has any of them? Well T17 does have speed, that's something.

ya t17 is pretty vet friendly. i usually can get them to vet 2 in a game. But they do die soon after.
armored car and pumas?

[Tymathee]

armored cars and pumas, all u need is one stray mortar shell to pop it and its done.

but as I said, u get more xp for killing axis units than allied. I think grens are 3xp per man, and its 1 xp per rifle, 2/3 per ab or ranger, 1 per support crew.

[CrazyWR]

volks kill 1 ranger, gets instant vet1