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Tymathee Offline
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« on: August 15, 2012, 07:35:02 pm »
The prices are just off for what they're actually worth on the battlefield.

US Jeep - 110mp, 10 fu, 3 pop
Bike - 90mp, 10 fu, 3 pop
Schimmwagen  - 90mp, 10 fu, 2 pop

Armed Schimmwagen  - 120mp, 10 fu, 3 pop
Ketten - 95mp, 5 fu, 2 pop

My main issue is with the Jeep vs the bike.  Why is it 20 more mp for way more useless? If i'm an allied player and i see 3-5 bikes running around, they're a pain. Hard to kill, fast, and a strong gun, even one can mess up several support weapons.

I played a game not too long ago, threw out 5 jeeps to go after a sniper, go within range, 1 goes down from long range from pak, close in, another goes down from a 2nd shot, 3 go after it, 2 go down to 4 schreck shots and the last to small arms fire.

If those were bikes, maybe 2 die, the rest would've gotten the sniper. Yes they have less health than a jeep but their speed and dodge ratio are too high, somewhere in here the prices need to be regulated.

I would like to see the jeep either lowered down to 90mp or the bike raised to 110.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 11:04:22 pm »
Give bikes mark target!
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 11:10:41 pm »
Biggest issue I have is the pool cost...should be reduced.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 01:32:23 am »
another jeep thread? Didn't we have one recently?
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 08:17:52 am »
no, it was off topic of the main and i dont think it was a balance thread. I'm making this official, especially since people like ampm seem to like to roam around with bike packs.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 09:36:45 am »
lets give 1 bar and a hmg on top.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2012, 05:17:26 pm »
WTB Stormtrooper Bikes, they can move while cloaked and have Mp44's and the LMG.


Speaking of, Volksinator, can you code motorcycle cavalry for your Italians?
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2012, 10:08:17 pm »
jeeps are a better unit, bikes a better sniper counter

but then again allied snipers are more effective vs axis then reverse
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2012, 10:34:58 pm »
Quote from: FailHammer on August 16, 2012, 10:08:17 pm
jeeps are a better unit, bikes a better sniper counter

but then again allied snipers are more effective vs axis then reverse

jeep? better unit? who r u preachin to?

only thing they've got is more health and can drive backwards but bikes have higher dodge, cheaper, faster, better accel and decel. I'll take a bike over a jeep any day.

and tbh, the snipers effectiveness is quite even.

Allies snipers yeah go against 4 man grens, 5 man volks but they also have to deal with better sniper counters.

Axis snipers have higher rof so they're more effective vs support teams and they have better units that can shield them from incoming jeeps and stuff.
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 12:43:47 am »
Quote from: Tymathee on August 16, 2012, 10:34:58 pm
bikes have higher dodge

Tym. U dumb?

They have same dodge precentage.

Bike has worse pathing than the jeep does.
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 03:27:59 am »
Quote from: NightRain on August 17, 2012, 12:43:47 am
Tym. U dumb?

They have same dodge precentage.

Bike has worse pathing than the jeep does.

No I am not. Obviously you don't understand bike has 25% incoming acc buff vs 57mm while jeep has none vs pak.

so if u go .75 x .6 that's a high miss rate.

I have played so many games where bike paks roam and do havoc while if u do same with jeep they die en masse.

and dont go and point out one freakin thing when all im asking for is a price change which is totally fair.
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 05:01:09 am »
They have the exact same dodge, the only disadvantage Jeep faces is PAK's Ambush shot which is full accuracy and insta snaps the jeep into bits.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2012, 05:20:34 am »
Pak ambush do not give extra accuracy anymore.
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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 06:16:03 am »
Quote from: PonySlaystation on August 17, 2012, 05:20:34 am
Pak ambush do not give extra accuracy anymore.

i dont think thats true cuz i've yet to see a pak come out of ambush and miss any vehicle.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 08:12:27 am »
Quote from: PonySlaystation on August 17, 2012, 05:20:34 am
Pak ambush do not give extra accuracy anymore.
Uhh hey Mr. Misinformation officer your on break remember you dont need to be working right now.

25% acc bonus is what it gets.
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2012, 08:54:12 am »
Sorry, I was thinking of another unit.
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2012, 10:39:05 am »
Quote from: NightRain on August 17, 2012, 05:01:09 am
They have the exact same dodge, the only disadvantage Jeep faces is PAK's Ambush shot which is full accuracy and insta snaps the jeep into bits.

dude, look in corsix.

57mm acc vs bike is .75 and moving is .60
pak acc vs jeep si 1.00 and moving is .60
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2012, 10:42:09 am »
I just checked. Tym is correct. Jeep 0.75 received acc pl0x.
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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2012, 11:14:16 am »
Quote from: TheVolskinator on August 17, 2012, 10:42:09 am
I just checked. Tym is correct. Jeep 0.75 received acc pl0x.

Only if you make it so the bike can reverse without turning around.
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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2012, 12:10:58 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on August 17, 2012, 11:14:16 am
Only if you make it so the bike can reverse without turning around.

I'll take non reversing if i can turn on a dime like the bike.
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