TheIcelandicManiac
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« on: October 12, 2012, 04:48:04 pm » |
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From what i was able to gather in the Patches after having a little chat with tank in i went over the patch notes and saw this. In February you buffed the puma a little - 50mm Puma moving accuracy from 0.5 to 0.75
then in April you did it again
- Puma Coaxial MG buffed to match PE AC's Coaxial
- Puma 20mm main gun moving accuracy changed from 0.5 to 0.65
Then suddenly in August you revert one of the changes and increase the fule cost. Puma
- Fuel from 65 to 70
- Moving accuracy from 0.75 to 0.5
Up-gun Puma
- Fuel from 70 to 90 so from that i notcied the puma is a actually a tiny bit better than it originally was but A lot more expensive or did you guys just forget to document some of the changes? |
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 12:25:44 am » |
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very interesting ice, looks like the puma got reverted to its bad stats with a higher amount of fuel.
What is the balance team answering to that?
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 12:59:37 am » |
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possible spam abuse ? usually is the answer to increased costs to units for no apparent reason
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 01:56:09 am » |
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possible spam abuse ? usually is the answer to increased costs to units for no apparent reason
from my perspective that were the developement steps: step1: its being noticed puma is inferior and seldomly present on the battlefield ( most said its utter crap) step2: buff it to be more often used step3: buff it to be more often used and more useful step4: recently noticed that its easy to spam because of its cost and with the gained effectiveness step5: revert changes/buffs to first state and higher costs Final: we have the same puma before all the buffs got implemented that no one wanted to use with higher cost doesnt look legit for me tbh |
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 03:26:03 am » |
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Tankedit: Useless remarks removed from balance forum
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Hicks58
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 03:51:03 am » |
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Cool over-reactions brosephs.
I take it nobody noticed that it still has the PE AC's coaxial MG, which gives a significant buff to it's DPS? Not only that, if you stop to take your shots, it still has very high DPS.
The change was reverted so you can't whizz by and gank squads on a whim.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2012, 04:17:44 am » |
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It's an improvement over how it was before, at least it's useable, it's similar to the Quad, so having one in your company never hurts. I have a vet3 and vet2 Puma.
The accuracy on the move thing didn't work out. It's obviously not good for gameplay if a vehicles has better accuracy on the move than it has standing still.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 06:19:37 am » |
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I take it nobody noticed that it still has the PE AC's coaxial MG, which gives a significant buff to it's DPS? Not only that, if you stop to take your shots, it still has very high DPS.
So the Price increase of 30 fule on the up-gunned puma is because it got an better Coaxial? |
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 06:44:46 am » |
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Hicks58
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 08:53:11 am » |
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No, the 30 Fuel increase was because after it was un-fucked it was perfoming way too efficiently for a 70 Fuel unit.
Also, it was a 20 Fuel increase, not a 30. Where did you learn to count?
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 09:26:21 am » |
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Icelandic, just blew my mind
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2012, 10:09:25 am » |
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Also, it was a 20 Fuel increase, not a 30. Where did you learn to count?
I mis-read it, jeez. |
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 11:01:38 am » |
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I just want to make sure we are not mixing up the changes to the two units, so I am going to repost Icelandics information per unit. 50mm Puma- 50mm Puma moving accuracy from 0.5 to 0.75
- Fuel from 70 to 90 20mm Puma- Fuel from 65 to 70
- Moving accuracy from 0.75 to 0.5 - Puma 20mm main gun moving accuracy changed from 0.5 to 0.65
What I am unsure about is this change: - Puma Coaxial MG buffed to match PE AC's Coaxial Was this change made to just one of the units or both? |
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Hicks58
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2012, 11:06:55 am » |
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Both AFAIK.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2012, 11:18:38 am » |
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i find both units seem right for the costs, i use one or two of each in a couple of my companies where before i wouldnt use either.
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tank130
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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2012, 12:32:34 pm » |
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I confirmed this with Leo who did the coding. 50mm Puma- 50mm Puma moving accuracy from 0.5 to 0.75
- Puma Coaxial MG buffed to match PE AC's Coaxial - Fuel from 70 to 90 50MM received a double buff and a fuel increase.20mm Puma- Puma 20mm main gun moving accuracy changed from 0.5 to 0.65 - Puma Coaxial MG buffed to match PE AC's Coaxial - Fuel from 65 to 70
- Moving accuracy from 0.75 to 0.5
20MM received a double buff and a fuel increase. Then one of the buffs was reverted. So I guess the question is: Does the Coaxial MG buff warrant a 5 fuel increase? |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2012, 12:47:25 pm » |
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Well if leo says the DPS buff of the Coaxial is good it probably is, so i would say yes if its only 5 fuel.
Stop Lurking the bloddy threads faps, its annoying to see you read every single one of them and then not play EVER.
Srsly i miss you and i want to hunt your vet again.
Please start playing again? please?
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« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2012, 01:38:25 pm » |
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Stop Lurking the bloddy threads faps, its annoying to see you read every single one of them and then not play EVER.
He want's to make sure that the playerbase feel comfortable with changes and want to get some feedback for the dev cave. You're complaining about it? The normal forum voice is "The dev team doesn't listen!" |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2012, 01:43:59 pm » |
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He want's to make sure that the playerbase feel comfortable with changes and want to get some feedback for the dev cave.
You're complaining about it? The normal forum voice is "The dev team doesn't listen!
What, I am talking about RoyalHants aka Faps, Who the fuck are you talking about? |
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tank130
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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2012, 02:02:57 pm » |
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Please stay on topic gents
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