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[hans]

I need ur help guys. I was looking for a good pc and found this offer here and from the first impression it looks awesome:


http://www.hitech-gamer.com/Gamer-PC/Battlefield-III-PRIVATE-V5.html?lang=1&langid=3

has anyone made any experience with this webside/shop or can u recommend the specification of that pc for good gaming performance?

thx in advance

[nikomas]

I recommend you build it yourself, it's really not that difficult if you have tutorials/a friend to guide you.

The rig I have right now is the first and only one so far I built on my own, when I built it I had zero experience (asked for a lot of advice thou) and it's the best running, most reliable PC I've had.

[RikiRude]

I agree with nikomas, I've built about 4 computers, and it's really not that hard, it CAN be frustrating, but you will feel quite proud of yourself and it's usually cheaper. especially if you already have some parts available. If you don't have the time to build one, then usually these sites are pretty reliable, plus if you get one of these computers you can learn to upgrade different parts on them.

[aeroblade56]

it looks okay. i mean stock pcs or pre built pcs are just kinda meh.

500gb isnt very big and 1tb is like the minimum now.

if you do build your computer its pretty easy just dont go forcing tips where they should go (:p)

i actually needed some help on my setup my case is to small for water cooling. so i guess i have to shovel out another 100$ for a full tower to fit the damm thing

[PonySlaystation]

As others have said, buying parts will save you a lot of money.

[Smokaz]

Look at the components (especially cooling) and then look at the shiny buttons and LED lights. Man you are like native indian being fooled by the spanish conquistadors, hans.

[aeroblade56]

Look at the components (especially cooling) and then look at the shiny buttons and LED lights. Man you are like native indian being fooled by the spanish conquistadors, hans.

Smokaz my hombre, my canalito, my hermano, my amigo!.

[zadekk]

Hi i bought my new PC 6 month ago. Today I prefer only Intel platform. I post here my configuration is in a similar price level, maybe it help you.....

INTEL CPU Core i5-2500K BOX (3.3GHz, LGA 1155)  +  CPU SCYTHE SCMG-3100 Mugen 3 Rev.B
ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN36
KINGSTON 8GB DDR3-1600MHz HyperX CL9 XMP kit 2x4GB
MSI N560GTX-Ti TWIN FROZR II/OC
WD hdd 750GB WD7502AAEX 64MB SATAII/300 7200rpm
LG DVD±RW/RAM GH22NS70 10x10x22x22x SATA
FRACTAL miditower  R3 + SEASONIC S12II-620W 80+Bronze retail 600W

I had built and selected components myself...

[LiquiDeath]

ppl are in 2 camps


*either you are dumb in IT - deal with it, pay premium and then demand service/warranty accordingly ( as I do with cars or something)

*you are at least partially mechanical/assembly proficient and not so dumb to do google search yourself for proven build sets, or go directly to your/some popular tech site, which happen to have several of tested DYI PCs sets released quarterly with desired categories (office pc, gamer pc, all-around box)

So are you wealthy/dumb/adventurous? pick your choice, but in this case I would recommend grabing parts yourself, add phillips screwdriver and dont be consumer whore and accomplish something (its not nuclear sience). And you will have nice ikea style gratification and experience persistent attachment to your rig, like EIR vet, you know haha


It can be even your hobby then. /last pc i built 7 years ago for 400EUR, overclocked lowprice coreduo from 1,6 to 2,66 ghz, oc memory, etc. this machine lasted me so long and wouldnt die, so I had to throw it so I could bought notebook just to have something new. its super beneficial to have your carefully chosen and assembled parts

[Ahnungsloser]

...

This is a perfect summaration about this thread. When I buy new computer hardware I set a fixed budget and then I try to build several computer configurations (let's say a AMD and a Intel plattform with several graphic cards) and estimate the overall peformance be able to select the best one.

Often it's necessary to make some trade-offs but with strategy you can always save a lot of money and don't pay for stuff you don't really need.

[RikiRude]

ppl are in 2 camps


*either you are dumb in IT - deal with it, pay premium and then demand service/warranty accordingly ( as I do with cars or something)

*you are at least partially mechanical/assembly proficient and not so dumb to do google search yourself for proven build sets, or go directly to your/some popular tech site, which happen to have several of tested DYI PCs sets released quarterly with desired categories (office pc, gamer pc, all-around box)

So are you wealthy/dumb/adventurous? pick your choice, but in this case I would recommend grabing parts yourself, add phillips screwdriver and dont be consumer whore and accomplish something (its not nuclear sience). And you will have nice ikea style gratification and experience persistent attachment to your rig, like EIR vet, you know haha


It can be even your hobby then. /last pc i built 7 years ago for 400EUR, overclocked lowprice coreduo from 1,6 to 2,66 ghz, oc memory, etc. this machine lasted me so long and wouldnt die, so I had to throw it so I could bought notebook just to have something new. its super beneficial to have your carefully chosen and assembled parts

extremely well said 

i built the computer i use in 2007? Same mobo + cpu + RAM, ive only updated the video card and it can run BF3 on medium-high settings. And right now I have a SD drive and RAM sitting around waiting for me to get a new mobo/cpu 

Once I get that? Then I use the old combo for a media PC in the living room with an old case i have!

[AmPM]

Look at the components (especially cooling) and then look at the shiny buttons and LED lights. Man you are like native indian being fooled by the spanish conquistadors, hans.

Smokaz actually picked out the one decent thing in that build to make fun of....

Of everything there the cooler is probably the only part worth anything. It doesn't even come with a licensed OS, not that cracking it is a huge deal but still.

You can do something much better with say,


CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£158.95 @ CCL Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£26.65 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX  LGA1155 Motherboard  (£128.12 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£29.76 @ Scan.co.uk)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£71.00 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card  (£207.01 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred ATX Full Tower Case  (£90.22 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  (£71.58 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £783.29
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

You can swap out the 7870 for a 660ti if you feel more comfortable, but it has the edge on cooling, power use and performance in most everything.

[hans]

so anyone can recommend a good guide or tutorial "how to build computer" for me?

[aeroblade56]

AMPM would probably know the best as his house is just essentialy a computer case.

Also PLEASE for the love of god make sure the case is big enough there is nothing worse then having everything but 1 fit.

[chefarzt]

Its like LEGO, if the parts fit together its easy as shit.

[LiquiDeath]

yes, it should be pretty straightforward i guess nowadays.

everything tends to be just snap-on, even thermal grease is already on CPU cooler, drives (hdd, opical) you just connect through sata cables, sound will be most likely builtin on mobo. have good powersupply and plug dedicated branch to your gfx card just to be sure it has enough power and now conflicts with other peripherals occur

just pay attention to motherboard schematics and manual and you are golden, its only critical area. good case is basic, as you dont want to fiddle and seek how to lead wires around.

if not sure ask somebody in vent or go to instructables.com or such site, or google it, but trust us it will be not that unintuitive

another option for you is to buy desired parts through your local PC shop (for good price only) and let them assembly it for you for say 50/100 EUR max. they will be happy for your bussines yet you will not be ripped of by their common joe-schmoe all-around stock gamer box as they will see you know what you want.

[RikiRude]

i remember getting a new cpu and buying thermal paste only to find every CPU already has thermal paste and it isn't worth the effort to take off the stock thermal paste to put your own haha.

[Killer344]

You can swap out the 7870 for a 660ti if you feel more comfortable, but it has the edge on cooling, power use and performance in most everything.

Nvidia's driver team has a huge edge over AMD though.... on all fronts, customization-performance improvements and day one compatibility above all. It took AMD almost two months to release a fully working driver for Skyrim, and a lot of crossfire users are still using weak workarounds up today.

[Sachaztan]

Nvidia's driver team has a huge edge over AMD though.... on all fronts, customization-performance improvements and day one compatibility above all. It took AMD almost two months to release a fully working driver for Skyrim, and a lot of crossfire users are still using weak workarounds up today.

Well, not entirely.

Nvidia was behind the dreaded nvlddmkm driver.

[PonySlaystation]

AMD GPUs are better optimized for a lot of games on release. Skyrim was badly optimized because it was console port.