AmPM
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« Reply #420 on: December 18, 2013, 01:38:08 pm » |
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Don't bother, the new Ki-84's have a placeholder FM, the KI-61's FM to be exact last I tested it on the dev server.
In other words, it's going to get slaughtered.
Unless it's a placeholder like the La/Yak/153 etc =) |
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« Reply #421 on: December 18, 2013, 01:43:02 pm » |
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Unless it's a placeholder like the La/Yak/153 etc =)
No, quite literally the Ki-61 FM |
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"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they've tried everything else." The officer is considerably better than a riflemen squad at carrying weapons. Officers have good accuracy so they will hit most targets. |
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« Reply #422 on: December 18, 2013, 05:26:03 pm » |
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Who cares about Japanese fighters when this new matchmaking system is completly broken right now? I am seeing K-4s and bearcats in my LA5. The new research system sucks monkey dong too. They also put in proper "battle values" for all the planes. Fucking arado has a higher battle value than a F80 star. Beaufighter is still low tier, + so many other things.
Worst patch I have experienced.
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #423 on: December 18, 2013, 05:43:02 pm » |
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It's pretty hit or miss.
it seems like thunderbolt is a fucking tank. to bad i maxed out mine :l
On the other hand it's kinda germany game now spitfires will trash anything low to the ground whilst the bf109s seem to climb faster than light. 50cals seem to perform quite well now.
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You are welcome to your opinion.
You are also welcome to be wrong.
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #424 on: December 18, 2013, 06:04:55 pm » |
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Why does everyone whinge about the beaufighter.
While it does have 4x 20mm standard, its still out turned and out run by nearly everything.
If one manages to get on your tail then gg, you youve gotta question how you let it happen.
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« Reply #425 on: December 18, 2013, 07:37:57 pm » |
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Why does everyone whinge about the beaufighter.
While it does have 4x 20mm standard, its still out turned and out run by nearly everything.
If one manages to get on your tail then gg, you youve gotta question how you let it happen.
It turns with many single engine fighters and out turns all of the other heavy fighters. It has excelent elevator and rudder control compared to the other heavy fighters near its tier. Its speed disadvantage is hardly noticeable, and appears to be nonexistent against other heavy fighters. It has 4 hispanos which are more potent than most if not all of the 20mms at that tier. They have high velocity and excellent ammunition, with no notable disadvantages. The weapons are all also center mounted. The plane is armored and hard to take down compared to the other heavy fighters. Also sports a rear gunner. Heavy Plane vs plane matchup goes like this - Bf110s dont have shit on its maneuverability or firepower. They are also slightly more vulnerable. Ki45s dont have anywhere near its firepower, and have a fraction of the survivability. The engines on it are one of the most vulnerable in the whole game, the engine lights on fire from sneezes and mean looking stares. |
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EIRRMod
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« Reply #426 on: December 18, 2013, 07:42:32 pm » |
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Ah. You're playing arcade yeah?
Its kinda good on FRB, but gets eaten if the pilot isnt VERY skilled.
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Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #427 on: December 18, 2013, 08:26:26 pm » |
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Yeh honestly, you guys should play hb or frb b efore jumping to wild accusations about something being op.
110s 410s and thr ki45 climb far far quicker then the beau.
The tail gunner in the beau is also pretty shit and usually dies in the first 10 seconds of combat.
About the only time a beau outturns a fighter is if there is a speed difference of about 200kph
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« Reply #428 on: December 18, 2013, 10:02:27 pm » |
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Yeh honestly, you guys should play hb or frb b efore jumping to wild accusations about something being op.
110s 410s and thr ki45 climb far far quicker then the beau.
The tail gunner in the beau is also pretty shit and usually dies in the first 10 seconds of combat.
About the only time a beau outturns a fighter is if there is a speed difference of about 200kph
I have played about 3 games of arcade in the last 2 months, but I am willing to accept the truth that if a plane is OP in one game mode, especially the most played one, it needs to change. There is no hidden rule saying that "You shall be 100% consistent and not have different FMs for both HB and arcade" There is no advantage to letting a plane be retardly OP in the highly populated game mode that is arcade, just because you want to be consistent with the flight model you give a plane. |
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #429 on: December 18, 2013, 10:55:11 pm » |
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I have played about 3 games of arcade in the last 2 months, but I am willing to accept the truth that if a plane is OP in one game mode, especially the most played one, it needs to change. There is no hidden rule saying that "You shall be 100% consistent and not have different FMs for both HB and arcade" There is no advantage to letting a plane be retardly OP in the highly populated game mode that is arcade, just because you want to be consistent with the flight model you give a plane.
yeh man but arcade is just arcade, you can get mono planes upto jet speeds without consequence, in HB and FRB you exceed a planes maximum rated speed or pull too high G forces in a turn and your wings or tail will rip off. tbh if the beaufighter is giving you trouble in arcade maybe swtich modes or if you cant beat em join em! |
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AmPM
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« Reply #430 on: December 18, 2013, 11:29:27 pm » |
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If you are having problems with Beaufighters you are doing it wrong. It's not fast, or agile. A couple good shots and down it goes.
In Arcade the issue you will find is not the flight models, but the damage model. The damage in Arcade is nearly meaningless unless its a destroyed control surface or engine....
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #431 on: December 19, 2013, 01:06:15 am » |
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10 games since patch
Not only are teams always uneven in terms of numbers, but I frequently have Bi planes facing things like P51Ds and F4Fs in fucking Historic Battle, Gaijin have lost it, back to WOT I think.
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« Reply #432 on: December 19, 2013, 01:49:48 am » |
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In Arcade the issue you will find is not the flight models, but the damage model. The damage in Arcade is nearly meaningless unless its a destroyed control surface or engine....
This. |
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AmPM
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« Reply #433 on: December 19, 2013, 02:02:18 am » |
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10 games since patch
Not only are teams always uneven in terms of numbers, but I frequently have Bi planes facing things like P51Ds and F4Fs in fucking Historic Battle, Gaijin have lost it, back to WOT I think.
Did you not read the patch notes? They are having issues with the matchmaking and a fix is in progress...sometimes I wonder if you are just retarded. |
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« Reply #434 on: December 19, 2013, 02:37:24 am » |
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Did you not read the patch notes? They are having issues with the matchmaking and a fix is in progress...sometimes I wonder if you are just retarded.
Wondering, have you ever been good at anything other than calling people Retards?. |
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #435 on: December 19, 2013, 02:41:15 am » |
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Did you not read the patch notes? They are having issues with the matchmaking and a fix is in progress...sometimes I wonder if you are just retarded.
Just wondering if the mighty gaming conglomerate called Gaijin even tested this before they made the decision to release the patch ? Or are they just retarded |
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AmPM
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« Reply #436 on: December 19, 2013, 02:45:05 am » |
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Just wondering if the mighty gaming conglomerate called Gaijin even tested this before they made the decision to release the patch ? Or are they just retarded
It wasn't having any issues on the test server, so probably something didn't get transferred over properly. There was another recent patch but I haven't checked it yet. I only had 2 weird matchmaking issues today, out of about 20 games. |
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #437 on: December 19, 2013, 02:46:22 am » |
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Well every game im in its F80 shooting stars seal clubbing either me or the enemy almost before I get airborn, AND THIS IS IN HB! Historic fucking battle, where in history did my fucking spitfire Mk I II V IX face off against a F80 shooting star, or Mig 15Bis  ? This is more broken then humpty dumpty |
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« Reply #438 on: December 19, 2013, 12:28:39 pm » |
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I've found it easier to level up now in arcade than HB
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« Reply #439 on: December 19, 2013, 12:54:37 pm » |
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I love my Beaufighters in Arcade. Take out pretty much anything with a good burst, take approximately 20 million shots before you finally decide that landing and repairing might be a good idea, out-turn pretty much anything there is...
Only issue I ever had with them was them being a bit slow and prone to getting rammed by suicide hurricanes that just want to get their 4 missiles off... You know, the exact same thing I do to enemy Beaufighters with my Hurricane.
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