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TheArea Offline
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« on: May 14, 2013, 11:44:58 am »

Just curious, but does anyone else think that mortar airburst is broken?

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Shabtajus Offline
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2013, 11:46:16 am »

allies are broken in general so mortar fits in main context so stop asking pls  Cheesy
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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2013, 11:53:31 am »

whoever came up with airburst for mortars for ab needs to be shot in the face repeatedly.
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MissileJoe Offline
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 11:57:26 am »

Obviously its designed to make up for teh useless( not working) rest of ab doc.
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aeroblade56 Offline
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2013, 11:59:39 am »

or the fact US mortars are pieces of shit.
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You are welcome to your opinion.

You are also welcome to be wrong.
hans Offline
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2013, 12:11:29 pm »

havent tested or fought against it. Have to test this i guess.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2013, 12:17:42 pm »

It is slightly silly, the whole "lets give the mortar more splash than howitzer rounds" thing.
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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2013, 12:18:05 pm »

its hilariously broken.
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hans Offline
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2013, 12:19:25 pm »

maybe a balance member can introduce it, so why and with what purpose they added this.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2013, 12:20:05 pm »

Nope, Nikomas coded in the airburst mortar from scratch, having been given 0 direction on what it should actually be.


I assume he'll be fixing it for the next patch Tongue.
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hans Offline
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2013, 12:23:48 pm »

captain missinformation strikes again lololol
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2013, 12:27:55 pm »

Im like 75% sure its like 25% mine 60% rifles and the rest leo can claim i guess.

This explains the terrible balance within that doctrine.  Grin
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aeroblade56 Offline
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2013, 12:37:16 pm »

This explains the terrible balance within that doctrine.  Grin

trust me most of my draft was really op stuff if anything they took the UP stuff and used it.
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CrazyWR Offline
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2013, 01:01:35 pm »

Nope, Nikomas coded in the airburst mortar from scratch, having been given 0 direction on what it should actually be.


I assume he'll be fixing it for the next patch Tongue.

ya...so nikomas.  Fix your mistake.  Or I'll just hunt you across EIRR forever.
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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2013, 01:16:08 pm »

Holy Shit - the misinformation in this thread makes me want to puke.


Here's how the newest Rendition of AB was created.

First: The Back story. Nikomas is new to coding. For that reason, he does not have as much knowledge in the RGD's as our previous coder did. However, he has 10 times the personality, and 10 times the work ethic. The experience will come with time.

Second: Because of the inexperience, we were not able to code all the shit we really wanted to code because, frankly - we do not know how (yet). Some of the other things in Leo's draft were more horribly broken then mortar boost, so those got scraped as well.

Third: We took existing abilities already coded in the archives, plus some other stuff we could code and did our best to put together a combination. When I say we, I am referring to Eirrmod, Brn4meplz, Hicks, Nikomas, Groundfire, Unknown and other members of the BT.

So while some of you expect perfection at every turn, yet none of you can actually agree on WTF perfection is, a pretty damn good doctrine was created. Like every doctrine, it may need a tweak or two, but generally it is pretty good.
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TheArea Offline
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2013, 01:46:31 pm »

No doubt AB is good, probably too good.  But, from a design stand point hasn't one of the fundamental  distinctions, between wher and Americans at least, the difference in their mortars?  Just seems like a random thing to give AB when the prob had been in the pen of RRs (if i remember right).

In any case, any doc for AB is a positive step, and the tweaks may not be small ones, but ill let my betters argue that one out, its just on first glance and experience those airburst mortars are silly on top of AB across the board buff. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2013, 02:05:57 pm »

Okay so review for playing with the ab mortar.

It is on the op scale not so op that its going to win because somebody is packing 4 but op in as far as a small pop artillery piece goes.

yes maybe the projectile needs a looking into while it has like 1 minute cooldown or something it fires 4-5 shells in the span of a few seconds and it will Kill any support weapon within range. due to the drop speed and inbetween shots and spread of airburst this makes it harder to dodge.

But it is still a mortar and PE for once has a very viable counter Armored cards with overdrive thanks to phase armor or RRS phasing through AC they can easily swoop in kill and then leave.

Even a goliath or puma could easily take it out. with all the new artillery pieces the axis now(nebel,stukas wespe) its actually harder to keep alive since its a primary target.

you dont need to kill the mortar but the crew.

like i said it most likely needs some tweaks.

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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2013, 02:08:55 pm »

Yeah, as much as I'd like to blame Leo for it the Airburst is not because of him... On the other hand, it's a shame we all missed out on smoke launching shermans that DEBUFF enemy tanks and inf units in it's smoke, or phase armor quads or AB's without any fireup penalties... Man, that draft was funny. Anyway, It'll likely be looked over soon enough and if anything the large splash might have been an oversight on my end (I'm pretty sure I set it to around 8, not 12, but looks like I didn't).

If any excuse, if you look how much RGD shite was done last patch (over more than a month) some of the stuff I did well over a month or two ago sort of got lost along the way. As for most of the non-working T3's, well, that's SCAR and they'll be done when it gets done, I can't do SCAR*.

(not yet anyway)
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2013, 02:10:54 pm »

Yeah, as much as I'd like to blame Leo for it the Airburst is not because of him... On the other hand, it's a shame we all missed out on smoke launching shermans that DEBUFF enemy tanks and inf units in it's smoke, or phase armor quads or AB's without any fireup penalties... Man, that draft was funny. Anyway, It'll likely be looked over soon enough and if anything the large splash might have been an oversight on my end (I'm pretty sure I set it to around 8, not 12, but looks like I didn't).

If any excuse, if you look how much RGD shite was done last patch (over more than a month) some of the stuff I did well over a month or two ago sort of got lost along the way. As for most of the non-working T3's, well, that's SCAR and they'll be done when it gets done, I can't do SCAR*.

(not yet anyway)

Ye did good kid.






Now where is volskinator?. we can all silently blame this on him until things blow over.
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2013, 02:12:00 pm »

Hey mang, don't be hatin' on my lil'bro volski!
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