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« on: May 17, 2013, 09:53:43 am » |
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Always eir reword unit make balance breaking.
WTF Maus and Jagdtiger?
i don't understand why introduction maus & Jagdtiger?
It is always balance breaking. think about it.
Allies have nothing to Over power unit. even if Super Pershing is low health. also not cheap.
Maus and Jagdtiger should be 2000MP / 900 FU. and repair kit 300 MU
every allies want enjoying the game but Maus and Jagdtiger break allies mental.
Who can kill it now? Oh Yeah I can kill by trolling. but I don't want to be troll.
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| ick312
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2013, 10:01:35 am » |
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S T I C K Y
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I don't know Wind, that whole 21 virgins thing kinda peaked my interest a little .......
From fucking kids to fucking christ, jesus heartmann. Just stop already you filthy monster, you are only making it worse
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2013, 10:51:04 am » |
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 Also, bad analogy ground, My vegetables never pissed on my ego when I decided they defeated me and gave up on dessert.
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 11:04:58 am » |
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Well, atleast you dont have to fight 2 of them at the same time tbh, there isnt enough AT in the whole world to fight that mess.
Allready did it against 2 noobs when was fighting 2 mauses and only thing that saved me was capping.
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gj icelandic i am proud of u  Sometimes its like PQ doesnt carrot all.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 11:25:19 am » |
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Go watch the replay a day at the zoo...Elefant and JT together in that one...
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 11:42:26 am » |
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Because a forum post should be like a woman's skirt. Long enough to cover the subject material, but short enough to keep things interesting.
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AmPM
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 11:46:23 am » |
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M I N E S T I C K Y Whats the range on it's gun? If it's not 50+ you should be able to kite it easy with ATGs or FF. |
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 12:30:16 pm » |
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stickies only work at vet 2. and only a complete idiot charges Le vet 2 rifles.
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You are welcome to your opinion.
You are also welcome to be wrong.
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AmPM
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 12:34:38 pm » |
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stickies only work at vet 2. and only a complete idiot charges Le vet 2 rifles.
If it's not coming foward, you can shoot it with ATGs...if it closes you can sticky. Obviously you have to watch out for it's support, but you should far and away have more stuff on field. |
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2013, 12:44:34 pm » |
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As poorly as the OP was written i agree with it. Reward units are bonkers, theyre the units that have escaped balance, they run amuk and normally end up not fun. Everytime the huge influx of reward units show up, i always enjoy waiting a week or 2 untill they are all dead before comming back
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 I will never forget the rage we enduced together  Ohh Good, AmPm can pay in Doubloons.
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AmPM
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2013, 12:47:52 pm » |
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As poorly as the OP was written i agree with it. Reward units are bonkers, theyre the units that have escaped balance, they run amuk and normally end up not fun. Everytime the huge influx of reward units show up, i always enjoy waiting a week or 2 untill they are all dead before comming back
The Maus and JT aren't even the worst of it...the PZ II and M5a1 are devastatingly effective at destroying squads in seconds. Would have been nice to have these units balanced, at least partially, before deployment. |
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2013, 12:51:06 pm » |
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The maus is a whopping 20 pop. One sticky or mine can cripple the majority of one player's army. And if you can't take it on directly, avoid it and work on backcapping. The maus is sure as hell not going to catch up to you. As poorly as the OP was written i agree with it. Reward units are bonkers, theyre the units that have escaped balance, they run amuk and normally end up not fun. Everytime the huge influx of reward units show up, i always enjoy waiting a week or 2 untill they are all dead before comming back
Both sides have access to reward units. To me they are an AWESOME way to spice things up, as any doctrine can take them and it adds a plethora of options to an already well known game (by EIRR veterans). Of course they may need tweaking but as Groundfire pointed out, they are also great at attracting new players. |
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 tank130: oh noessss....I can't counter your big, unmovable anti tank gun with my much smaller, mobile, and cheaper anti tank gun....... WTF... the horrors of imbalance....... |
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2013, 01:26:48 pm » |
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Whats the range on it's gun? If it's not 50+ you should be able to kite it easy with ATGs or FF.
It's 50 exactly, so ATG's have 10 range on the thing. It's funny, the ATG can actually move back faster than the maus can advance, it's the only tank in the game you can actually kite with an ATG, but people prefer to just sit in front of it. When did people stop using stickies anyway? They're one of the best things the ami's have. |
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aeroblade56
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2013, 01:41:56 pm » |
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It's 50 exactly, so ATG's have 10 range on the thing.
It's funny, the ATG can actually move back faster than the maus can advance, it's the only tank in the game you can actually kite with an ATG, but people prefer to just sit in front of it.
When did people stop using stickies anyway? They're one of the best things the ami's have.
False. its called sherman croc. |
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AmPM
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2013, 01:42:57 pm » |
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False.
its called sherman croc.
Sherman croc can't be kited, it's faster than the ATG. You might kill it before it reaches you, but that's not kiting. Is Jadgtiger the same speed? If they are that slow I'm just failing to see the issue. Flank around, how fast does the turret turn? Draw fire with a jeep or something and snipe with M18's even. It's an oversized KT. Hell, you might be able to just run an M8 up to it and plant a mine... |
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Shabtajus
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2013, 03:59:57 pm » |
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JT aint have turret AmPm lol
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Groundfire
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« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2013, 04:06:54 pm » |
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What you guys dont seem to get is that this kind of mechanic is present in every type of table top game and fantasy card game there is. (Warhammer, Magic, etc.) The over priced, slightly over powered super unit. Europe in Ruins is now a combination of the two or at least we hope to make it that way.
It's actually very good way to attract new players and make a center piece for your army for customizability.
If any unit you had non-doctrinally was able to counter a reward unit, then the reward units would not be worth it. They are balanced out by their rarity and scarcity. (which always get disporportionately represented by good players and stackers but that's what you got to deal with)
They would'nt be in the game if they were uncounterable.
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Heartmann
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« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2013, 04:21:03 pm » |
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Tbh more often than not have axis lost games because they bring out to many heavies and get out capped or out gunned
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« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2013, 04:48:30 pm » |
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Jt and maus are what 18 and 20 pop respectively.
If you can't out cap those players using them your playing EIRR wrong.
Destroying units on field is only one option to win,
Capping is the easier ugly sister of eir win conditions
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