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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2013, 04:51:48 am »

The Thompson is no more difficult to fire full auto or to control than the MP40 or any other SMG. The stigma that the thompson's recoil was hicher because of the .45acp round it fired and its open bolt design is completely untrue. And in fact, the Stg44 offered no improvement in controlabillity during fully automatic fire, only a general increase in accuracy, range, and utility.

The MP40 had less recoil and muzzle rise due to slower rate of fire, built in muzzle brake and lower caliber ammunition and because of this was able to be fired in fully automatic, it also had greater effective range due to higher muzzle velocity but slower lower rate of fire and less stopping power than that of a Thompson. War time production M1 Thompson's did not have a muzzle break and was only useful when fired in short controlled bursts.

The STG44 was not supposed to be fired in full automatic. It was a great invention because it had the range, accuracy and stopping power of a rifle while at the same time being able to maintain a much higher rate of fire. So yes, of course it benefited from a higher rate of fire.
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2013, 12:43:03 pm »

lol volks, the tommy gun was notorious for being a full automatic shotgun basically, spraying shots everywhere, you could fire full auto at a target and completely miss the full auto could be so bad.

mp40 was a great weapon and could be used everywhere

however, if i'm storming a house, give me the tommy gun.
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2013, 03:24:55 pm »

maybe a Thompson is better by rushing into a building but not on a field combat,
and not every soldier in WW2 is using a kevlar weste so is 9mm a killing caliber.

mp40 was a great weapon and could be used everywhere

however, if i'm storming a house, give me the tommy gun.
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2013, 07:45:52 am »

Full Auto MG42, Stg44, MP40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V47k5vyVyOw

German LMG 1931: MG-34 shooting and disassembly  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEJrh6SIKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIX9wCktVQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh-BlCTK3lo

German LMG 1965: German MG3 Machine gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br_Gqiwyev4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIX9wCktVQc
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2013, 07:55:14 am »

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Dnicee Offline
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2013, 08:28:19 am »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy6CRdIJB40


K98 Mauser, byf 43
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PonySlaystation Offline
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2013, 08:54:43 am »

I wish I had a mauser, ammunition still very expensive? also it seems like kind of pointless to fire at such a short range target.
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Dnicee Offline
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2013, 09:03:35 am »

Yes, very expensive. 50 rounds cost almost 600 kr or 90$ more or less. FYI that was 80+ m on a windy day without scope. Not as easy as you think and im not sure what you mean with pointless. If you hunt you rarely fire on a target more then 80 m away without a scope.
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PonySlaystation Offline
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2013, 09:08:57 am »

Oh ok, it looked like 20 or 30 meters. But still you should be able to hit your target a couple of hundred meters away with some practice.


Swedish Mauser Model 96
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFPbXqBPOA
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2013, 02:34:06 pm »

Sub Machine Gun PPSH-41:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq63GlFiCKE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg2wShSyQ-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2OjPsg7ydY
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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2013, 10:55:51 pm »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJw8gmBfKdk
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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2013, 10:40:32 am »

wow, super nice..
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2013, 02:02:18 am »

Thompson M1928A1 (full disassembly and operation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5LkacqmXrc

M1 Garand (full disassembly and operation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpETfM-wB08

Ppsh - 41 (full disassembly and operation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E88UaZHE-t8

Mauser C96 (full disassembly and operation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds6x5C0AFtk

Anti Tank Rifle Boys (full disassembly and operation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkXhpX9HB2g

Browning M1919 (full disassembly and operation)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og4YtXnpOrA
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2013, 11:59:04 am »

The exploded drawings and animations are super awesome to understand/watch how everything works in the dynamics. Someone put
a lot of work in it.
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Bear Offline
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« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2013, 12:00:39 am »

Book recommendation:
A new book describes how GIs and Wehrmacht together against the SS fought.

Stephen Harding: "The Last Battle: When U.S. and German Soldiers Joined Forces in the Waning Hours of World War II in Europe".
(Da Capo Press, Boston. 223 S., ca. 20 Dollar)
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