AmPM
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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2013, 08:47:06 pm » |
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Bren Button + AP MMG should about handle it.
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2013, 10:05:10 pm » |
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Why did bren carriers loose button again ?
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TheVolskinator
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2013, 06:50:18 am » |
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Button OP!
Naw, I dunno. A Bren carrier turnrate increase would be fantastic; I doubted the need myself a while back but saw someone (aero?) using brens and them just SUCKING because PE vehicles could circlestrafe them.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2013, 06:59:59 am » |
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Button OP!
Naw, I dunno. A Bren carrier turnrate increase would be fantastic; I doubted the need myself a while back but saw someone (aero?) using brens and them just SUCKING because PE vehicles could circlestrafe them.
Where is the problem? I mean can we buff StuG's turn rate because a m10 circle strafed it to death? It is a same case right here. |
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2013, 07:10:14 am » |
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Where is the problem? I mean can we buff StuG's turn rate because a m10 circle strafed it to death? It is a same case right here.
Your talking the difference between a fragile, and supposidly agile light vech And the stug which is a cheap almost throw away AT AI piece. I think a stug would almost circle strafe a BC. Back on track, can anyone from the BT give some acknowledgement to the ideas in this thread. |
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2013, 09:25:57 am » |
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There is currently a discussion in the Balance team over some proposals that have been sitting for a while.
The farthest one back being the Support Grenadier
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AmPM
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2013, 09:28:48 am » |
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There is currently a discussion in the Balance team over some proposals that have been sitting for a while.
The farthest one back being the Support Grenadier
I hope they don't add more support weapons.... |
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« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2013, 09:54:21 am » |
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need to move this proposal to the front to be honest...
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AmPM
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« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2013, 10:25:27 am » |
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need to move this proposal to the front to be honest...
Yes. Nothing here requires anything but price changes. Simple, fast, no coding. |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2013, 10:37:35 am » |
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Im honestly starting to think that the devs dont give a flying fuck about balance.
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AmPM
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« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2013, 11:10:25 am » |
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I don't think that they don't care, but I do feel that they act slowly and make huge sweeping changes rather than acting quickly and using small and easily reversed changes.
I think it's due to the balance by committee approach.
There is probably also a certain amount of apprehension due to the community's sometimes heated and enraged reaction to change.
On the upside, I think that the changes I have proposed are fairly small, easy to implement, and, most tellingly, have not resulted in a 20 page thread with dozens of angry argument filled posts.
On that note, if you do disagree, do it respectfully, otherwise I will ask for your posts to be removed (anyone on either side of the argument). These are changes I believe in and would like to see implemented, and keeping things civil improves the chances of it being noticed and taken seriously.
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« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2013, 11:11:44 am » |
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Im honestly starting to think that the devs dont give a flying fuck about balance.
thats silly |
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2013, 11:51:49 am » |
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I hope they don't add more support weapons....
First off, the Support Grenadier is not a Support weapon in that it sets up. It is a fully mobile infantry squad with a suppression component. Secondly, alot more has been discussed and outlined |
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AmPM
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« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2013, 11:53:58 am » |
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First off, the Support Grenadier is not a Support weapon in that it sets up. It is a fully mobile infantry squad with a suppression component.
Secondly, alot more has been discussed and outlined
TBH, new units have caused more trouble than anything else with game balance, other than the Brit Support weapons. Better to fix the inherent issues than to just bandaid on another unit that is suddenly a "required" item (Hi there FJ sniper...) |
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« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2013, 01:13:36 pm » |
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There is probably also a certain amount of apprehension due to the community's sometimes heated and enraged reaction to change.
THIS!!! - Is the biggest reason balance changes take forever tbh. Because of this, we have no choice other then do balance by committee. Most of this community lynches the BT lead at the best of times. Could you imagine if only one person made every decision  |
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« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2013, 01:33:49 pm » |
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THIS!!! - Is the biggest reason balance changes take forever tbh. Because of this, we have no choice other then do balance by committee. Most of this community lynches the BT lead at the best of times. Could you imagine if only one person made every decision Put myst in charge of it. You start seeing plenty of interesting decisions. |
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« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2013, 02:41:56 pm » |
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Appreciate the vote of confidence there speedy, and I'm sure you'd have people who'd agree with you, but I don't doubt there'd be at least equally many people burning up in a holy rage who'd crusade against that kind of appointment, lol.
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AmPM
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« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2013, 04:16:25 pm » |
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THIS!!! - Is the biggest reason balance changes take forever tbh. Because of this, we have no choice other then do balance by committee. Most of this community lynches the BT lead at the best of times. Could you imagine if only one person made every decision Yea, they would just have to be willing to take the flak for it. The other option, EIRRBalance user profile. |
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2013, 07:20:07 pm » |
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more often then not the communities outrage to change is because the changes are not discussed with the wider community in detail.
or even playtested, eg the AVRE nerf months ago out of the blue.
I rest my case.
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tank130
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« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2013, 10:18:25 pm » |
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more often then not the communities outrage to change is because the changes are not discussed with the wider community in detail.
or even playtested, eg the AVRE nerf months ago out of the blue.
I rest my case.
So you bitch balance changes take to long because it is done by committee; and you suggest increasing that committee to include the whole community......... facepalm.jpeg will just not cover this level of stupidity....LOL |
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