Patch R002

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[tank130]

General
- XP Requirements for veterancy lowered by 33% across the board.
This will not be visable in the launcher for a few days so you'll have to do the math yourselves until it's updated.

- Transport Truck Scar Error Fixed
- All Officers: Pop from 4 > 3

American
- Pershing: Acc Vs. Inf reverted from 0.85 > 0.75.
- Engineer: Default weapon changed to M1 Garand
Flamethrower: Now grants additional greaseguns.

Commonwealth
- Tommies: Crew shock finally fixed
- Firefly: Pop reduced from 12 > 10, Fuel cost from 320 > 300.
- Achillies: Will now auto-target bikes.

Wehrmacht
- Tiger: Acc Vs. Inf reverted from 0.85 > 0.75.
- King Tiger: Speed buffs granted from Vet 2/3 removed, will be replaced with other buffs at a later date.

- Pioneer: Default weapon changed to Greandier/Stormtrooper Kar98K, Pop increased from 2 > 3, Health Reverted from 80 > 70.
Flamethrower: Now grants additional MP40.
Mine: Cost from 15 > 35 and now grants 2x mines instead to compensate for increased pop.

Nebelwerfer: Suppression per rocket reduced from 0.08 > 0.06


Panzer Elite
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Side note, I still have no idea what is wrong with the crusader AA.

Hicks edit: Just cleaned up a couple of typo's.

[clonetroopers]

PE
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Me so sadlence....
 

[dlepah]

finally aero cant abuse dat company-wide button spam anym0ar

[aeroblade56]

So pgrens didnt get sprint removed at vet?.

So we can have sprintable armies of pgrens but we don't see Rifleman with fireup running around.

[CrazyWR]

I'm more concerned about the lack of a nerf to the most OP unit in the mod ATM, the IST.  Although most of this is pretty good, and for once in an EIR patch, it doesn't seem like anything went overboard.  So well done to the balance team/devs.

[EliteGren]

So pgrens didnt get sprint removed at vet?.

So we can have sprintable armies of pgrens but we don't see Rifleman with fireup running around.

Is this guy serious? Are US supposed to represent a mobile army with mobile playstyle? No wait, that's Panzer Elites goddamn theme.

Secondly, sprint does not break suppression, fire up cannot be compared to sprint, they serve different purposes.

 And most of all, Riflemen never even had fire up to begin with, and you seem to have not used your brain in a while if you seriously consider them getting it as compensation for PGrens having sprint. Panzergrens don't chuck nuke apple's at your shit and stickies at your tanks, all while having a suppression breaking ability.

Your whole point is so mind bogglingly retarded that it makes me mad and I have the impression this is the kind of post that would come out if GORKHALI knew how to speak english

[GrayWolf]

Where is my KT speed buff ? WHERE ;(

[XIIcorps]

So pgrens didnt get sprint removed at vet?.

So we can have sprintable armies of pgrens but we don't see Rifleman with fireup running around.

yeh I dont get why they are the only mainline inf with sprint even at vet.

Riflemen dont get sprint
Tommies require a lt at vet 1
Volks/grens require blitz T3

[NightRain]

Poor pios, back to the normal life with a increased pop. Though grenadier k98s.

Will there be any changes for 88s? They haven't recieved any form of love aside of nerfbat hits. i.e no more arty protection, no more arty, moved to T3.

Will nebelwerfer get any increased damage to compensate for lack of suppression? I.E Impact damage increase etc.

[XIIcorps]

Poor pios, back to the normal life with a increased pop. Though grenadier k98s.

Will there be any changes for 88s? They haven't recieved any form of love aside of nerfbat hits. i.e no more arty protection, no more arty, moved to T3.

Will nebelwerfer get any increased damage to compensate for lack of suppression? I.E Impact damage increase etc.

yeh gotta agree with the nebel here most games I use one it gets maybe 3-4 kills despite hitting and suppressing maybe 10+ squads.

I dont know if it needs either a short range dmg buff or the aoe fire needs dmg/flamer crits

[Uglysori]

Hey as an FYI, I was wondering why luft co is borked.  Looks like FJ snipers are taking up 24 support pool per sniper...

[PonySlaystation]

why does the nebel keep getting nerfed after finally seeing some usefulness? it's suppression artillery that barely deals any damage.

[ick312]

few thoughts on the patch:
all in all a very good one.

-FF with 10 is pretty cheap but in days where the panther is more then trash justified.
-Tiger/Persh is defnitly a step into the right direction.
-KT speed nerf is also right, i can tell now with a vet 3 kt that its really a road runner.
-2x mines on Pios, well idk tbh: the allied tanks rely on speed and flanking since only few are able  to head up vs an axis frontal engagement. So lowering the possibility of flanking is interesting

vet requirements: i am sure that this is a wrong step! Vet 1 came fast, Vet 2aswell, Vet 3 took a couple of games and vet 5 took ages.

[Shabtajus]

 I don't really like hix but hey at least now he is starting to make sense with those changes, gj

I am all cool with vet requirements for ATGs or PAKs but make but please ffs make dem crew retreat properly, its well know bug, fix it and QQ about cloack and AP rounds will stop.

marders lock down is vital thing for dem thing, aint no vet requirments needed for it

what about tiger/pershing range? aint its going down? at this point CW got FFS buff to deal easier with axis tanks but Wehrmacht and PE got no buffs to deal with pershing, MK6, Jumbos. Only nerfs at AT department for axis. Now feels playing allies using axis start: just go tank heavy coy and you will be ok lol. Even infantry doc or AB doc players rely more on tanks than on inf, its game changing and its not that great idea make eirr tank vs tank vs AT tanks mod tbh

[terrapinsrock]

Looking like a good patch, Firefly changes should be quite good.

Was wondering if those trucks gave scar errors, we got a fatal scar yesterday for the first time in ages.

Though can you guys fix 95mm Crom target tables? They prioritize vehicles over infantry atm.

[Tachibana]

- King Tiger: Speed buffs granted from Vet 2/3 removed, will be replaced with other buffs at a later date.

Bwaha, suck it m1d.

[GrayWolf]

Bwaha, suck it m1d.

Well bonus reload and turret rotation ? Why not

[narref]

So pios get worse weapon, get worse health and now they are higher pop? Dat nerf.

But now they can get 2 mines instead of one so...
Which means the defensive unlock T1 defensive minefields is now officially useless.

I don't want to rage against the dev team like many seem to enjoy, but how is this supposed to be a step forward in balance?
How is breaking a unit and a doctrinal unlock which were both working properly going to help balance?

First mp40/greasegun... now kar98/garand, then less health more pop but just for the pios? Seriously guys. Do you even have a plan when it comes to balance the game or do you just pop in random ideas one after another and expect it to magically work at some point?

Dev Edit: If you can not post using your big boy words instead of silly pictures, then please refrain from posting in our forums.

I know balancing the mod may take time, but the way you're do it. It will just take forever.
Get a plan or just hire more monkeys for the balance team.

[AmPM]

I'm not sure how or why the Pio to 3 pop change is justified, maybe if Engineers were 4 pop.

[nikomas]

I'm not sure how you can justify 2 pop pioneers when they're essentially grenadiers now... are you people missing that bit?