Patch R002

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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2014, 03:51:12 pm »

Quote from: I2ay on March 06, 2014, 02:26:39 pm

So if buying an MP40 and a flamethrower is 55 munis, and two greaseguns and a flamethrower is also 55 munis, why is just buying a flamethrower on a sapper unit suddenly 80 munis with the same shitty rifles that don't make sense to have as supporting weapons for a flamethrower?

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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #61 on: March 06, 2014, 06:00:40 pm »

Quote from: I2ay on March 06, 2014, 02:26:39 pm

Total HP (including Armor)
weakness to sniper fire


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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2014, 06:08:03 pm »

Quote from: ick312 on March 06, 2014, 06:00:40 pm

Total HP (including Armor)
weakness to sniper fire

I'm still confused as to why you get a 3 man squad with 2 SMGs and a Flamer for roughly the same cost as a 2 man squad with 1 SMG and a Flamer...


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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #63 on: March 06, 2014, 06:19:09 pm »

Quote from: AmPM on March 06, 2014, 06:08:03 pm

I'm still confused as to why you get a 3 man squad with 2 SMGs and a Flamer for roughly the same cost as a 2 man squad with 1 SMG and a Flamer...

im still confused as to why you get all this for cheaper then a 4 man squad with a flamer and 3 enfails.


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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2014, 06:45:03 pm »

Quote from: Alpha TIG on March 06, 2014, 06:24:14 pm

AF's are tougher. The extra 20HP is essentially like having soldier armour versus many weapons, except that they also have Airborne Armour damage modifiers on top of that, and then they also have extra modifiers from the Airborne Armour while moving. If lower HP and Soldier armour was tougher why the hell would people buy the T3 ability which gives Fallschirmjagers more health and Airborne Armour? (The answer is of course that it makes them tougher/ just as tough when not moving, and then even tougher when moving).

http://companyofheroes.wikia.com/wiki/Infantry_Type

At the bottom is a list of what each armour does.

You've forgotten about Heroic armour...

Assault flamens are deadly inside and out of a IHT. They for 110mu get 1 flamer and 3x mp44's which when you do the math -
55mu flamer
2x mp44 60mu
That would be 115mu so they actually get a discount of 5mu for an extra mp44.

The other two both have cqb weapons when they upgrade to a flamer, where the trench busters are just a sappersquad with an 80mu flamer and cant build defences.


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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2014, 06:58:43 pm »

Quote from: XIIcorps on March 06, 2014, 06:19:09 pm

im still confused as to why you get all this for cheaper then a 4 man squad with a flamer and 3 enfails.

I'm not even worried about that yet lol. So many issues with these units being turned into mainline replacements.


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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #66 on: March 06, 2014, 07:05:29 pm »

Wow, XII, I see you're employing some mighty Republican Maths^TM there!

1. They're based on ASSAULT GRENS, Not Storms.
2. AssGrens get 4x mp44 for 90 Muni, That's 22.5 per gun.

Granted, they're still cheap compared to the busters but shit like that is why some people cant be assed to even read your posts anymore.


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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2014, 07:23:21 pm »

Quote from: nikomas on March 06, 2014, 07:05:29 pm

ok that ones on me too.
So 90mu - 22.5 for the lost mp44 =67.5
+55mu for the flamer 122.5mu rounded up or down I dunno how you guys work it.

Thats still 10mu unaccounted for.

bump the trench busters upto 100-110 mu and give them a flamer +3 shotguns.
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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2014, 10:14:53 am »

XIIcoprs pls PM deadbolt or some1 else who is decent with brits, ask for a help how to play brits and stop allways QQ about brits, dem man even me who played brits like 50 games not more and I do better than you man who plays brits non stop. Ask yourself maybe problem is not with brit faction maybe its just you man? lool

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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2014, 01:16:50 pm »

Brits have stepped up alot recently. with AT rifles available piats hitting stuff now officers being reduced pop ff reduced pop mk6 getting health buff. they got alot of things they needed. brens +1 damage.


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Re: Patch R002

« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2014, 03:23:05 pm »

Yeh shab and you kinda missed my point.
I wasnt "QQ" about brits in general, only that trench busters were poop in comparison to other troops of a similar role.

Hows about ya check leader boards and see ive player around 400 games as brits with probly half being losses. Why ?
Cause I dont wait 3 days for perfect stack team to ensure victory, I play with andy and patrolucus vs skaffa and ugly


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