R012 Preliminary Notes

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[aeroblade56]

My BP is completely fine, And a 30-40 MP cost is quite a bit, If that is going to be the case why dont we give that cost to rangers airborne and mandoes too? A little higher though since theirs sprint abillities break suppression.

werent they higher for like the longest time?. they just recently took down price on rangers.

[Hobomancer]

werent they higher for like the longest time?. they just recently took down price on rangers.

I meant in the sense that they would have to pay extra for fireup/mando smoke.

[aeroblade56]

I meant in the sense that they would have to pay extra for fireup/mando smoke.

But doesnt rangers still have vet 1 for fireup?.  even with that they still exhaust.

[Hobomancer]

But doesnt rangers still have vet 1 for fireup?.  even with that they still exhaust.

Yes they do, ANd scotz said he'd be rolling back all the vet requirements in the OP, And sure they have exhaust but last time i checked sprint doesnt break suppression and last time i also checked sprint reduces accuracy by 50% Even when standing still, Something im pretty sure fireup doesnt do.

Another thing to note, Giving allies back their fireups and mando smokes will make g43 slow useless against half allied doctrines.

Scratch that, Worse than useless considering g43 slow gives massive accuracy debuffs.

Hell scratch that, Since giving rangers and airborne their fireups and mandos their smoke for free at v0 just means pgrens have no chance in hell of staying away from allied thompsons/stens which is their hardcounter.

[Hobomancer]

The suppression nerfs are being tweaked, so don't worry there. AT WORST, you get BAR suppression level, Not bad.

As far as sprint, scotz has already said that it is coming back without the debuff. You'll just have to pay the 30-40 MP cost for the Vet Stg.

There have been no nerfs to g43 dmg.

Calm down trap meng. Not good for BP.

Oh and at worst i get BAR suppression which actually is pretty bad, Without the option of taking a non doctrinal HMG to supplement.

[Mister Schmidt]

Take it to balance kids

[PonySlaystation]

30-40 manpower is too much for sprint. I think that it's balanced in it's current form, kind of like a tactical retreat.