Thtb-Ally
The German Guy on the Ally side?
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« on: April 11, 2008, 03:03:23 pm » |
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Serious Thread.
IMO Ants is currently not working correctly and has more disadvantages than advantages;
Those are the main disadcantages imo;
***Does not actually stop stacking.
Forces me to play against people i dont want to play with, as it just happend before. I keep a blacklist for a reason. Some players just have connections issues or lag horrible for me and i dont want to play against them.
*Limits the personal choice, teamplay
*Not that newb friendly...
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2008, 03:06:49 pm » |
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I don't see how ANTS itself (Anti team stacking) could favour team stacking  . I'll agree though that overall, combined with win %s and a hidden system, it does actually make stacking easier, all it does atm is prevent the extreme stacking. (But even the awesome players have about 60 to 70% so they have a pretty large margin overall) |
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Thtb-Ally
The German Guy on the Ally side?
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2008, 03:08:52 pm » |
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Before you coud see;
Ah, unk0wn, apex & lai are in the other team.
Now you see; Ah... 3 players are in the other team...
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| Dr.Nick1
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2008, 03:11:03 pm » |
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I think players should have the freedom to play who they want, just give a warning if the team percentage is high.
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Ucross
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2008, 03:11:17 pm » |
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There used to be players with 100% win playing brand new players.
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Thtb-Ally
The German Guy on the Ally side?
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2008, 03:12:05 pm » |
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And now there are new players with very low ratio´s not being able to play...
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| Apophiss
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2008, 03:12:29 pm » |
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Ill quote William Wallace here... FRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOM |
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| haeso1
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2008, 03:14:03 pm » |
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I'm sure the noobs playing people with 100% would rather play them than not be able to play. Just throwing that out there.
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| TheDrunkenSmurf
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 03:17:19 pm » |
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its needs a bit tweaking but the idea is great....
t yeah the poll could have the options
1. [] iam a stacker ANTS sucks
2. [] we need ANTS
3. [] ANTS need some tweaking tweaking
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Thtb-Ally
The German Guy on the Ally side?
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2008, 03:18:38 pm » |
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2008, 03:29:00 pm » |
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Play (sometimes lose) for CP with anyone with your non vet company, team stack with your vet company. Works great for me. Now that I don't need CP I can just team stack all the time too. No need to worry about whether I get my 7 cp for the day or not.
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Apex
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2008, 03:42:44 pm » |
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Just seeing the percentages was the best solution imo, because you see how good the opponent team is. You can switch players to make teams as equal as possible, which is the most fun to play.
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| Search17
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2008, 04:14:15 pm » |
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Having a 25% win ratio = I never get a game. =(
Ever
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fldash
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2008, 04:53:22 pm » |
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Search...  That has to be a blatant lie! BLATANT! I will inform the others! |
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| supahpingi
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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2008, 05:23:14 pm » |
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i dont like the ants system,nor the percentage:cuz some people hav connection issues with other players,and the percentage system doesnt work for me cuz i just seem to lose alot while im not that bad |
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Ucross
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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2008, 05:27:35 pm » |
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I hate when I lose a lot when I'm not that bad.
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| 1051SoNiC
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2008, 05:31:14 pm » |
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I think its fine, up to the point where the launcher decides,
THAT GAMEZ IZ UNFAIR!
The players should decide that, not the launcher.
I try playing with a bud who has been unfortunately landed with a noob ratio of 8% and we never get a game, except in a 4v4 situation where some good rations balance our more noobish ones.
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2008, 05:45:51 pm » |
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The socialist devs would rather force protect you from the evil that is team stacking  . I think an unignorable warning that the opposing team is vastly superior would've been fine, let users decide for themselves wether or not they actually want to play after that point. They've been warned, they agreed to playing it and knew what they were getting into. But at least they'll get a game faster, I'm sure a lot of players really don't care who they face, as long as they can get the game going in the short timeframe they have. |
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roflmao
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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2008, 06:40:39 pm » |
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EiR is already REALLY harsh on new players, while ANTS might be a good system on the long run, ANTS has become just one more thing to add to the list of things that "suck for newbies". Therefore I propose a removal.
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Ucross
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2008, 06:43:29 pm » |
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We do not want new players to fight 100% stacked teams. While they may be willing, it gives them a poor taste of EiR and they are much less likely to play again.
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