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[anthony210]

There are no pro's in this game.  There are good players and there are experienced players.  Dont use the leaderboard to judge a players skill or experiance.

Personally, I dont get annoyed when someone tells me something, in fact most of the time it helps me when im busy focusing on something else.  A simple, "yo your AT gun is getting overrun" helps a lot when your focusing on a differant part of the map.

[Alcapwned2]

None of them are Pro

Thats why i threw away my vet units to get off the leaderboard ^_^

[MistenTH]

I watched as the 2 RR vet 3 airborne squads took out Wol's Vet 3 Tiger (20% health remaining but engine-damaged) from front shots while being shot at by 3 volks squads and another grenadier I believe, with 1 volks having a MP40.

Though the 2 airborne were fire-uped and had the raid assault (50% damage and 50% health).

I was too busy pushing up on the town to notice what was going on with you 2, and I'd agree that it's annoying if someone keeps telling you what to do. But it _is_ a team game. You have your own reasons for doing things, the other player has his own reasons for doing things. And you'll have to be prepared to communicate - either STFU - which will end up in a loss usually, but at least it'll stop you getting annoyed, or a quick discussion to plan. Or you can call the shots instead of being herded about.

For the record, after the game, which we carried on, Salan came in and commented that they couldn't do much anymore, despite just being the 2 of us remaining, but we ran out of troops. If you had stayed on we could have won.

Temper is good to gets certain things done, but in retrospect getting annoyed + losing vet 3 tiger + a loss is certainly worse than getting annoyed + losing vet 3 tiger + getting a win.

At any rate, the mod's an alpha, I play it to have fun, so it doesn't really bother me too much. Just as long as you can reasonably promise you won't do it again the next time we end up on the same team again.

[GammaCommander]

If you lose a high vet unit, don't let its death go in vain. Losing a veteran squad/unit usually requires your opponent to give out quite alot of resources. Use this to your advantage and win that match.

@MistenTH There we go, now we have the full truth.

[Draygon]

Theres a difference between players helpfully reminding you when you have troops getting hit while you are elsewhere on the map microing something than having players tell you what to do with your troops when your perfectly capable of doing it yourself.

[salan2]

Hey wolster we knew instantly that you were mad, and probably because of how it happened.

You do realize the airborn in question had raid assault and were dropped 40 seconds before they got there in the intention of killing a different tank, your tiger just came up as they dropped.   Raid assault RR's  means run away.


They are balanced for all the nerfs airborn have recieved and when looking at many many other tier 4s with what it does, it really doesn't need a nerf at all.


I'll play against ya anytime, and I do understand this game is a mixed bag ... When you care about vet, and lose it, its hard.


edit, btw you could have easily beat us had you stayed..  BUT to win , sometimes the psychological war is the way to go.

[Niichts]

psych them out.
Tell them you got a pershing with a calliope rack in reserves.

[TodlichPanther]

Replay perhaps? I have a hard time believing that two squads of RR could take your Tiger out given the support that you stated you had.

ive been using tigers a lot recently, and every time one dies, its to recoilless, they have this tendency to engine damage tigers from the front, as anyone thats seen one of my tigers die recently, its kinda ridiculous.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Low damage per shot + lots of shots + high HP -> lots of crit rolls

[TodlichPanther]

what ever causes it, it shouldn't be forgotten, to me RR's are like long range 100% work stickies if the tank has less than 1/3 hp.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

They should lower Tiger HP so it doesnt get as many crits

[Wolster]

Id just like to straighten up this Tiger situation a little.

1) The tiger was on FULL HP when the engagement began with the 2 Airborne (MistenTH may only have looked over at the Tiger combat mid way through the engagement) the Tiger was Fresh on the field having engaged no other targets.

2) All RR hits hit Frontal armour they didnt get behind/side on it due to my micro & inf support.

3) I didnt run from the engagement initially as i felt the odds were in my favour to fight it out, re Full HP Vet 3 Tiger, at least 2 x Volks squads 1 with MP40s, & and adhoc Grens squads in the area assisting (in my view easily sufficient to deal with 2 (granted Vet 3 & fully manned) Airborne squads.

4) By the time i realised i was on the losing side of the engagement i had no chance to withdraw with engine damage & potential to offer side /rear targeting.

5) If their r any more doubts on this it was battle 6500 but i dont no how to bring the game files into the post.

What i would like to no is how much shit can b thrown at a 6man Airborne Vet 3 squad before they start to lose sufficent numbers to actually drop one of these damb RRs, since 1xVet3 Tiger 2xVolks & 1/2 x Gren is obviously insufficent (when i logged the Airborne were just finishing off the bloody inf as well)

Also answer me this please, how come Airborne RRs r being compared to Gren Schreks (Grens who plod up the field in 4 man(easy to reduce to 1man squads) in full view of the enemy & easy to avoid) surely they have much more in common with Stormies who r as equally adept at getting into the enemies rear areas as Airborne but unlike Airborne have to pay massively high costs to add equipment onto them, & due to being only 4 man squads r more than likely gonna gift such equipment to the enemy(unlike Airborne 6 man we will trade shots with u all day mate & u will b lucky to kill 1 of our guys squads).

In future i wont b dropping out of games early as i have no Vet units worth a damn about protecting (seem to use far to many on suicide anti Calli runs at present)

[Thtb]

I can sympatise with the way wolster acts.

To keep it short;

Don´t be dicks, cut the drama.

Also the leaderboard isent that much of a idicator. It just shows how spends the most time playing the game....

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Raid Assault vet 3 airborne have +70% damage, +50% HP, and -20% incoming received accuracy.  It was like you were fighting 23 Airborne troopers with 7 Recoilless Rifles between them.

(In other words, about equivalent to 4 vet 0 recoilless squads).

Regardless, a good initial shot with the tiger would have shut them down anyway. Thing hits hard.  Veteran Airborne RR squads get 3 or 4 men knocked off them by single Tiger shots all the time. 

[MistenTHA]

Although in Wol's case close to 10 shots didn't actually manage to kill any of the ninja fire-uppity airborne.

Wish my airborne were like that

Shoe > Wow ok so those are the current modifiers. That's amazingly good. IIRC a recent patch bumped the raid timer from 30 seconds to 60 seconds. It's a bit hard to avoid combating stimmed up demonic-rampaging airborne for 60 seconds when they drop nearby with the intention to render your tanks into molten hunks of junk.

Well future encounters will tell....

[BradAnderson]

dude those were 2 vet 3 ab squads with raid assault what do u expect they have a 75% extra damage output also i had at eagles with another 15% penetration also the tiger has little armour but a lot of health

[BradAnderson]

also battle: 6500 was death of the tiger and i just watched it and only one recolisess was vet 3

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[Libertine]

also battle: 6500 was death of the tiger and i just watched it and only one recolisess was vet 3

cant watch the replay atm since im at work...but doesnt that make it even worse ?

[BradAnderson]

no it is showing everyone how it died and proving to theta that its possible considering he asked for the replay

[Unkn0wn]

Get used to losing vet units, the better you get used to it, the less frustrated you'll be when you lose one.
I lose higher vet units on a daily basis, if you stop caring so much you'll save yourself & your teammates from the frustration .

Also, you should never bail on your teammates.