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Author Topic: 2.402 CoH Changelog  (Read 10503 times)
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GamerAndy Offline
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« on: June 06, 2008, 10:52:59 am »

This is the changelog from the latest balance patch going in shortly, items in bold will affect EIR

[2.402] Balance Playtest Patch Coming Soon....

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v2.402 06/06/2008

Fixes
- Fixed some building locations on Angoville Farms
- Fixed a control point issue on Beaux Lowlands.

Gameplay
- US mortar teams can use US halftracks as transports.  This is an interesting change... Might just be a fix, anybody know?
- British Sten SMGs are less effective (damage from .75 to .6, accuracy from .85 to .Cool vs Infantry_heroic target type (Knights Cross Holders)
- Wehrmacht Stug/Stuh with Armoured Skirts benefit from the same front armour improvements as regular Stugs.This refers to the different armor class - might not affect EIR since skirts are only purchaseable at vet3
- Wehrmacht Stug main gun tracking speed increased from 15 to 30 degrees per second.this is a big change - It essentially doubles the speed at which stugs are able to settle in to take shots - One of the most common complaints about the Stug is its long aim time and its number of mis-fires, this change will decrease those mis-fires dramatically
- US Bazooka damage modifier reduced vs Wehrmacht Halftracks, 234 Armoured cars, M8 Greyhounds, US M3 Halftracks from 1.2/1.25 to 1. Another nerf to bazookas vs. light vehicles.... I really have no idea why they're messing with bazookas and not RRs
- US Bazooka movement accuracy modifier is reduced from .8 to .75 vs light armoured vehicles.  This means it will hit an extra 1 time out of 20 shots fired.... counters the damage nerf a bit but it's a 5% accuracy increase with a 25% damage decrease....
- Wehrmacht 234 Armoured car max speed set from 6.4 to 7.0  Puma's getting even faster.... For reference, a Bike is top speed 7.2
- Panzer Elite Infantry Halftrack MG42 is less effective vs units in light cover. Damage is reduced from 1.0 to .75
- Rifle fire penetration vs British Mortar Pits and Howitzers increased from .5 to 1.0
- Machine gun penetration vs British Mortar Pits and Howitzers increased from .25 to .5
- Panzer Elite Wirbelwind suppression reduced from 0.05/0.05/0.08/.1 to 0.02/0.02/0.05/0.075. Suppression vs suppressed targets also reduced from 1.25 to 1.1
- Panzer Elite Wirbelwind suppression vs units in light and heavy cover reduced from .75/.5 to .25/.10.
- Panzer Elite 250 Funkwagen Vampire acceleration increased from 4.5 to 6
- Axis Firestorm rockets arrive more quickly after smoke markers land. Reduced min/max timers for shell arrival times. A needed buff, firestorm is a little silly right now with roughly 7 seconds from ability activated to its first rocket hit, 3 seconds after smoke drops.
- Removed a set suppression modifier that was applying to retreating squads on Churchill Tank Shock.
- Churchills will face their targets to perform their Tank Shock ability and get increased weapon suppression to compensate for removed set suppression action.

Thoughts?
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Lolto Offline
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2008, 10:54:34 am »

Nice!

Go Axis!
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BradAnderson Offline
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2008, 10:56:59 am »

YAY i call stug and puma price increases.
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Seeker Offline
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2008, 11:05:12 am »

STUUUUUUUUUG SPAAAAAAM.

Seriously though the stug needs help in vcoh but not against tanks, the reason no-one uses stugs is because no-one uses shermans and it sucks vs infantry.

The mortar change is kinda weird as well, I sense using HTs as mortar protection Shocked
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Warbirds Offline
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2008, 11:07:51 am »

Until they blow up and lose roughly 1.3 squad members.  Tongue
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Bodybag2224-Armor Offline
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2008, 11:10:23 am »

Increase stug price if patch is released to retail, because they are getting too good for their cost.
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Dukka Offline
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2008, 12:20:48 pm »

Hey, two of the three vehicles i primarily use in my companies are getting buffs. Sweet!
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2008, 01:38:05 pm »

Wow, killer whirble nerf, especially since they only just buffed them last patch.
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[AB]RikiRude Offline
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2008, 01:53:21 pm »

Well keep in mind that all this is subject to change of course.

The HT thing is funny, because I actually always assumed mortars could drive in HTs, and tried driving one in a HT about two days ago and was disappointed. But alas, I will be able to after this patch! Stug armor skirts is good as well. And oh man, the tracking speed is a gift from the gods!

But zooka damage vs light vehicles is dumb! I think their damage output is fine, they should increase accuracy by at least 10-15% if they are nerfing the damage. 

And puma speed change? Wha?! Who the hells been complaining it's too slow?
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Bodybag2224-Armor Offline
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2008, 02:10:52 pm »

The guy that drives the motorbike wants to drag race.
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2008, 03:51:37 pm »

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US Bazooka movement accuracy modifier is reduced from .8 to .75 vs light armoured vehicles.

Doesn't this mean it will hit less often?
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Thirteen Offline
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2008, 03:55:56 pm »

No Jack, the modifier refers to how much their accuracy changes while moving, I believe.
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2008, 03:57:23 pm »

Ah, so its like an inverse modifier. Where 1 means a complete deviation? And 0 means no change if the target is moving?
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Ucross Offline
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2008, 04:01:17 pm »

no, jack is correct.
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Thirteen Offline
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2008, 04:06:37 pm »

So Andy's wrong, and Bazookas got more nerf?
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|-|Cozmo|-| Offline
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2008, 04:06:45 pm »

You take the weapons base *whatever* (be that damage, accuracy etc) and times it by the multiplier or 0.x would be less and x.x would be higher.

(x > 0)

Am i right?
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Dr.Nick2 Offline
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2008, 05:01:35 pm »

Bazooka nerfs and Puma buffs confuse me.
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Kolath Offline
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2008, 05:57:30 pm »

Why can't axis mortars ride in axis HTs?
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stumpster Offline
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2008, 06:09:38 pm »

Why can't axis mortars ride in axis HTs?

Might be because they're the 'larger' mortar of the two, although I'm not entirely sure there.
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[AB]RikiRude Offline
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2008, 06:20:18 pm »

You're right, why allow US mortars to go in HTs and not axis mortar  Huh

Also can anyone change this statement.

- British Sten SMGs are less effective (damage from .75 to .6, accuracy from .85 to Cool vs Infantry_heroic target type (Knights Cross Holders)

to

- British Sten SMGs are less effective (damage from .75 to .6, accuracy from .85 to .8 ) vs Infantry_heroic target type (Knights Cross Holders)

It looks silly with the smiley face =)
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