Mysthalin
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« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2008, 04:02:17 am » |
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Argentan's "feel" is pretty good. The balance needs some work Rahx. And I was refering to the glow in the map Airfield, not Argentan  . And Unknown, how many relic stock maps are still often played in EiR if they're so good? Urban maps then? Lorraine was only played because it was TLS, then it died out again, turned on only when nubs don't have the mappacks... Rest my case  . |
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2008, 05:10:43 am » |
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You don't get the point at all, urban maps where the majority of the city is intact do not work with vCoH OR EIR. All those other relic maps don't get played in EIR for other reasons (bridges for example). That's all I'm saying.
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Kolath
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« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2008, 07:12:08 am » |
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Unkn0wn is largely correct, though if you take a map like Lorraine, it actually has a fair number of intact buildings. But yes, the trick is having ruined buildings to constrain movement and create interesting flanking situations, but not to have too many crewable buildings to lock down or else it becomes an MG fest.
I think Argentan is strong it just needs soem bug fixes and some tweaks to the number of crewable buildings (fix some broken buildings to higher health and completely wreck others).
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« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2008, 02:03:54 pm » |
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I suppose. <insert skilled mapper here>, would you like to help me make tweaks? In all honesty I don't know which buildings to change to rubble/good health. Rahx, my loading screen is awesome. Bodybag; k. |
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Kolath
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« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2008, 04:08:07 pm » |
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Warbirds, suggestion: Post a top down view cropped to just show the town and let people mark it up in paint with suggestions. If posters take the time and effort to mark it up, its the best way to get change input.
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« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2008, 04:15:22 pm » |
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Ok, Here. I can't be bothered to crop it right now, only have time to take the screen shot and upload it.
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2008, 04:15:55 pm » |
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Nevyn generally does a great job at that . Or at least he did it once and it was really good! |
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Kolath
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« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2008, 05:36:38 pm » |
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« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2008, 05:59:23 pm » |
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Woot.
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« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2008, 06:26:24 pm » |
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Oo if its just the city to fight in, where would the sides start? would it change to a 2 v 2?
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« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2008, 06:27:13 pm » |
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Actually, a cropped 2v2 City fighting Argentan sounds pretty kickass. Needs smaller sectors, but still kickass.
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« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2008, 06:29:40 pm » |
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we actually don't have any pure city maps beside the vanilla ones do we.. hmm
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« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2008, 06:49:45 pm » |
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My potential spawn points for an Argentan 2v2 urban.
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Kolath
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« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2008, 07:27:24 pm » |
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Oh, hmmm well that's an interesting twist! I just cropped it because the problem areas are all in the city (other than the one bugged hedgerow), but a smaller 2v2 version could be cool too!
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« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2008, 07:49:56 pm » |
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Move that spawn out of the bottom left. Your spawn points favour the right side by a huge margin.
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« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2008, 08:02:25 pm » |
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Or move the right top down a bit and the right lower one down to the hedgerowish area.
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| salan
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« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2008, 01:02:22 am » |
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wait why do you say that pengu? hmmm curious!
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2008, 02:28:19 am » |
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I'm pretty sure that'd still be too big for a 2vs2 due to the way the map is built.
Just compare it to Lorraine, it's HUGE :p.
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« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2008, 03:32:53 am » |
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Salan can you not see the giant chokepoints cutting off the bottom left spawn? I mean theres only a giant impenetrable stone wall there to block the bottom left spawn not something thats exactly hard to miss.
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« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2008, 10:39:48 am » |
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Salan can you not see the giant chokepoints cutting off the bottom left spawn? I mean theres only a giant impenetrable stone wall there to block the bottom left spawn not something thats exactly hard to miss.
i just wanted to hear ya say why but ya, i was looking at that as well. That bottom left spawn will be really confined and almost forced to go certain directions simply by its geography where the others are seemingly more open from the screen shots. |
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