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[CommanderNewbie]

Volks fail because people don't know that your meant to use them with HMGs. HMGs and Volks have the perfect synergy, if the unit is pinned or suppressed Mp40 volks will rip them a couple of new ones. Charging Mp40 volks with some form of support is stupid.

You may be hitting the nail on the head, there.

[NightRain]

The difference between a decent Rifleman unit and Volksgrenadiers is this

5 Manpower.

Only 5 manpower. I mean c'mon isn't that TOO much for such a infantry unit that only pwns with MP40s and when they have vet 3?
Hahaha
Yesh it is

[Razor]

Well, to justify the 5manpower diffrence is; Volks can build wire/sandbags by default.

[Killer344]

lol

[Leaph]

A few people have mentioned the MP40 moving accuracy modifier. I thought I would throw it out there that it is .2. So that entire squad on the move is as effective as one guy stationary. Anyway I don't use volks much just because they are so close to the price of grens now, you might aswell go for the better infantry. I used to use them for defending tanks. They excel well at that role because allied infantry usually have to get very close to a tank to attack in properly. MP40s are for situations where the enemy is forced to attack you. At this they are great. MP40's are a strong defensive unit, not really an attacking unit. Anyway, bring back 10k manpower. Rifles and volks are overpriced.

[stumpster]

Removed Thtb's troll post.  If you know that your post is a trolling post, DON'T FUCKING POST IT.

[Thtb]

It was so true it made the Website go down, thats not trolling.

[stumpster]

It was so true it made the Website go down, thats not trolling.

 

[PrydainAllies]

Don't buy MP40s and your volks will do well.

I just deleted a Fatherland Defence company, I had countless situations with it where I would easily beat rifle blobs just by hitting For the Fatherland with just two Volks squads. Even Salans Raid Assault was bested once. As I see it, Volks in the correct situations can be devastatingly resilient and are worth their cost at the moment.

I am playing allies from now on  .

[Snarks]

i was charging two mp40 volks squads 3 meter behind an at gun..half the way down in angoville.. they didn't killed a single man
i'm not sure but i think a puma finally finnished this desaster

mp40 volks are a piece of crap for everything other than airborne charging
and if you charge airborne you need a while until you raped them

mp40 volks loose much accuracy while moving (not sure but i think modifier was 0.25) and who will charge your volks to close range while they are waiting in cover?

even rifle without upgrade are much better then mp40 volks

Stop moving the Volksgrenadiers and your DPS will hit Ranger SMG DPS levels and I think it's even higher if I'm not mistakened. Also, MP40s are NOT assault weapons. They are not designed as assault weapons because 1) they're on a light infantry unit and 2) their on the move accuracy is extremely low for a reason.

If you buy MP40s for Volks, they become almost purely defensive. Stop using them as if they were second hand Rangers; they're not and should not be classified in the same class.

[Unkn0wn]

I love it when they assault my airbourne with mp40s then go 'WTF' when the airbourne kick their ass by staying on the move. 

[UnLimiTeD2]

Yeah, airborne incomming accuracy modifier + mp40 moving accuracy decrease
But think of it, MP40s roughly equal Thompsons, but you got one more.
at any range, standing still, MP40 volks will likely win vs. SMG rangers unless some lucky zook shots occur

[Snarks]

Yeah, airborne incomming accuracy modifier + mp40 moving accuracy decrease
But think of it, MP40s roughly equal Thompsons, but you got one more.
at any range, standing still, MP40 volks will likely win vs. SMG rangers unless some lucky zook shots occur

Actually, the Rangers will probably win because of their elite infantry armor and ability to fire up. The Volks just die too quickly to stand a chance. However, stick the MP40s inside a building and they'll masacre anything that gets too close. MP40 Volks make excellent guards for MG42s, I run MG platoons of 1 MP40 Volks squad + 1 MG42.

[Thtb]

Have to go with snarks there, rangers will win.

[UnLimiTeD2]

Well, I guess they deserve it, then.
Still, MP40s will make exellent guards against rangers aswell, most people will be tempted to run to close range, during that time volks enjoy an advantage.
Also they are cheap enough you could just stick a Piosquad to them.
With a flamer, if neccecary, it's still be cheaper munitions wise.
So I think we can conclude that MP40s are realy cost efficient.

[Thtb]

Yes they are cost effective - however you completly leave out the fact that rifles get more and more powerful upgrades and that ranger are tank killers while mp40 volks are only effective at that role. If you think panzerfausts are effectiv or even cost effective at I have to make your post vanish again.

We have to start again with stuff we cleared around page 5? You gonna bring the exact same thing again? You cant compare volks to rifles, cry cry?

[UnLimiTeD2]

ranger are tank killers

Your most funny statement so far today, really made me laugh.
No, I just discuss about the upgrades, I said I won't discuss the volks price here anymore. I know you don't understand it, it's fine; your on your Island, I'm on mine.
I've accepted most people here can't think into my point of view, I'm fine with it.
Really.

[Doce]

If Volks are only good with MP40s shouldn't you be lobbying for a decrease in cost of MP40s rather than Volks themselves?

[Akranadas]

I'd like to see Panzerfaust uses extend to 2 at the same cost with a 3 minute cooldown.

[Unkn0wn]

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