Change the current PP vet system.

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[RikiRude]

Bikes/jeeps or anything that only someone with a surplus of PP would spend PP on to vet up. I mean I don't even see any vet 1's of these guys. or we need a system where vet can cost a fraction of PP.


if i have a panther and a stug both capable of buying vet 2 for, and i only have 1 PP, im obviously going to get it for the panther. or if i have a bike and a panther, obviously im going to vet the panther.



the easiest way to remedy this problem?

give out 10 PPs per win, and 9 PPs per loss, that way, there is an incentive to win, but it's small enough that you shouldn't have people stacking or anything.

make vet on some units cost 1 pp, like bikes and such, 2 pp for infantry and light vehicles, and 3 pp for elite infantry and tanks, and heck, maybe units like the jagd and KT and such should be 5pp to vet up, not sure how cost effective those units are though.

you then also raise the PP costs of reinforcements, advantages, and doctrine abilities, and buying units in reserve and stuff would have to be changed, but i think it would be for the better because right now the 1 pp for vet on anything is a little silly, and if we keep it we will never see some vetted units.

[Killer344]

nvm lol, I like the idea.

[Scyn]

Just a quick question, are you the same person as LeoPhone? The guy who honestly thought that  Shermans should be faster when they have Mine Flail because they spin forward?

[brn4meplz]

I think the current system is fine. having to do a total rehaul of the PP cost system seems a little intensive especially considering the devs are already working on other bigger things. If i ever see a jeep able to go to vet 2 I'd do that in a heartbeat, sight range is always welcome to me. the thing with having you spend lots of PP or having the chance there to spend lots of PP is that when all the systems are in place they want you to have to make a choice. you might vet the panther over the stuh and come back to vet the stuh afterwards. but it still forces a choice

[DuckOfDoom]

My only concern over the present PP system is that the rank requirements might be too high. I mean, I have over 30 pps invested into my battalion, with 2 lvl 1 advantages and my doctrine unlocks, and I am still only rank 2

[Unkn0wn]

30 PPs if you think about it is only 10 games to be honest .

[RikiRude]

OK, even if you think my idea is bad, do you honestly think it's so horrendous that you have to compare me to someone who thinks shermans are faster with the mine flail out  if you were ampm i would of expected it.

I do agree that the devs have other things to worry about and for the time being the current vet works fine. but really down the road the current system would just be silly to have. we used to see vet 1 and 2 scouting units in the past. i know that what im asking would require quite an overhaul, but once it was done it would be well worth it.

I imagine this, scouting units and units without weapons would vet for free, no PP cost. And as units get stronger they cost more to vet up.

[salan]

actually when unknown and myself were working on the current vet lists I had proposed to have all scouting type units not cost PP on vet purchase, or at least not until vet 3.  But the level of vet that was added to all units across the board is strong and this idea was dropped as their vet tables would have to be reduced in efficiency due to cost vs reward.

[BigDick]

i'll never get it why people pay for vet anyway? vet is not that good to in trade of the heartattacks all that screaming in vent and the thing of that early retreats and pp costs

e.g. a gren squad....to be almost save in getting out a vet3 gren squad you need to retreat it at 2 men left....(most people do that already) if you give a shit about vet maybe try to not waste it for nothing u will retreat it at 1 men....you retreat actually 25% of the squad....the vet3 squad you retreat at 50%

now just think if vet3 is really good enough in trade of...

vet units are some prestige nothing more

[brn4meplz]

BigDick, i understand people have English as a second or fourth language, but your use of it is just confusing most of the time. I gathered you were calling people pussies because with vet they hand hold their troops too much. Are you really implying that if you have nothing left to spend PP on that the bonuses veterancy gives are not worth it? because my commando's, AB, and mortars would strongly disagree. veterancy is always worth it to spend pp on if you have it. JUst don't vet anything until you have your reinforcement package and some advantages.

[Tymathee]

brn, just ignore him.


(edit keep the insults out please: Nevyen)

[EIRRMod]

PP is only 3 atm, for unit testing purposes.

When doctrines, (and now Doctrine Advantages coming) the pp rate will be increasing.

Also, there may be changes to vet costs for different units, as well as free xp for non-combat units.

[RikiRude]

I don't know why I suggest such things when it seems you guys are usually on top of these things =P Good to hear.

[EIRRMod]

I don't know why I suggest such things when it seems you guys are usually on top of these things =P Good to hear.

Honestly, a lot of the things coming soon I dont share with you guys

[Killer344]

Like retreatable crews for the tanks? lolz..

[EIRRMod]

Like retreatable crews for the tanks? lolz..

Just like that.  lolz..

[CafeMilani]

no pls not
game spammers will have even more vet3 squads!
like Pak or windcries...
bad idea, its like "free vet"

[BigDick]

no pls not
game spammers will have even more vet3 squads!
like Pak or windcries...
bad idea, its like "free vet"

i would say raise the required exp for units that vet up quickly

it should need at least to keep alive a unit for 15 games and do descent damage with it to reach vet3 (maybe 5 games for vet2)

all based on how long such a unit will be alive as an average

[Pak75mm]

no pls not
game spammers will have even more vet3 squads!
like Pak or windcries...
bad idea, its like "free vet"

Stackers
Noob Stompers
Vet Hunters
Vet Keepers
and now

GAME SPAMMERS! god forbid we actually dont care who we play with or against lol. It has such tragic effect on the whole community lol. Vet is alot easier to obtain now than before. If you keep complaining we might as well revert to 600xp vet 3 panthers and my favorite 150+ odd vet 3 tommie squads to make everyone happy when it gets vet hunted relentlessly.......idiot.

[RikiRude]

game spammers! hahah, that's the best ive heard. could i give my jeeps an ejection seat? that would look epic. the dude goes flying out, then lands safely via parachute.