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[Killer344]

...needs more love.

As things stand right now,

The Americans can get repairs at 1.5HP/S for 330MP (3xengineers) = 9 pop cap.
The CW can get repairs at 1HP/S for 210MP and 65MU (1xsapper with adv repairs) = 4 pop cap, or 1.33HP/S for 420MP (2xsappers) = 8 pop cap.
The Whermatch can get repairs at 1.33HP/S for 110MP and 165MU (1 pio + rep bunker) = 4 pop cap, or 1.33HP/S for 440MP (4xpios) = 8 pop cap.
The PE can get repairs at 1.5HP/S for 320MP 155FU (1xberge) = 6 pop cap or, 1.33HP/S for 350MP and 80MU (2xpanzergrens with adv repair) = 8 pop cap.

The faction that needs repair the most (and FU to work) is just gimped atm... especially for the fact that its main repairing unit costs FU, while all the other factions can save all their FU for their tanks and use MU for the repairs, the PE can´t have that luxury because they need to be mobile, even their main repair unit needs that.. I´m just asking for a small buff for the Berge, something like:

300MP 150FU 5 pop cap 1.6HP/S.

[brn4meplz]

It also has heavy crush, takes a beating and as you demonstarated can clear my mines without fear of consequence

[Killer344]

And.... you can get 2 acs, or 1 wirble or nearly 1 marder instead of a berge, and about mines... only as a last resource, because you loose the mobility if you do that <3.


I´m just saying that you need to give up vehicles/tanks to get effective repairs, that aren´t truly better than the others faction´s repairs, the wher still has the best repair rates.

[Mysthalin]

Think that wouldn't be too extreme a change tbh, all up for it.

[CafeMilani]

once played a double pe vs double ami game and we had 2 bergetigers on the field. even THAT did not do too much..(to repair all the hurted HTs a panther and an AC)

[RikiRude]

Damn I never noticed the numbers, with some love the berge will be much more worth it and will give PE players that use it something they really need.

[NightRain]

When we are at it...

Why not make Berge repair 2hp/s It would repair fastest because it is a repair unit and can't really do much. Who likes to send Berge to fight? Ok maybe crush a hedge and try to kill infantry with berge's little popgun on the hull...rest of that its useless...xD who buys Berges anyway nowadays?

[Scyn]

Umm. Every PE decent player I know has a Bergetiger?

[Armfelt]

who buys Berges anyway nowadays?

I have recently played some arranged teams, and the combination of a Tiger Ace and a berge isn´t that bad, just having that berge on the field saves alot of vehicles instead of pios that are easily killed.

I´m not saying that the berge is better than other repair units. Other units can lay mines or carry purchased weapons. One role that the bergetiger has, is to be able to repair in dangerous territories, withouth being afraind of getting sniped or blownup.

I think that axis that already have the most reliable vehicles, with good hp and damage (e.g panzer IV, Panther), don´t need a McGyver unit that will repair everything in a minute. It is quite good as it is, perhaps increase the berge repair rate into 1,7 hp/s.

[Hydro]

who buys Berges anyway nowadays?

It won some games for me, ask draken about his p4

[Armfelt]

Haha, yeah I had a doctrine with five wehr P4 and a Berge made those five panzers endure the battle with ease

[Killer344]

yeah..... berges are ok because they´re good at repairing whermatch´s tanks... should we also say that brits are ok against support team spam because the americans have snipers?

[Armfelt]

Well, this is a Co-op game. And that makes it fun to play IMO.

And the Berges is as good at repairing PE vehicles, lol

[Killer344]

Read the 1st fucking post or stop trolling.

[Armfelt]

I have read the post and as i wrote above my opinion of the Bergetiger is that is fine as it is.

It is my opinion and as this is a forum everyone is free to have an opinion, right?

It wasn´t any of my intention to provoke you or make anyone angry, all i was trying were to reply as the discussion progressed. I beg your pardon if I made you angry, it was not my intention. So let´s drop this and go on.

[Piotrskivich]

It's weird to have bergetigers anyway, there was only like one ever found.

Would be more realistic to have a bergepanther or bergepanzer.

[Pak75mm]

nah thats ok i used to use em but they eat cap too much and do very little. I got luft ground forces to do a better job and recrew any crew weapons on the battlefield.

[Tymathee]

there was a "bergetiger" and its' just a game, they did it for fun. I say leave it be.

[LeoPhone]

even before EIRR was out, i came with the idea not to remove the abilty to recover wrecks.
becouse berger costs fuel, you get less vehics, so if you manage to recover some vehics you get ur fuel back.
and as i sayd it shouldnt be overpowered, so leth it salvage 2 vehics at most,  or dont leth it salvage tanks, or once the wreck is saved with half HP its unable to get repaired any more, etc.

[BigDick]

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