The Terror Problem (particularly with Oak Leaves)

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[AmPM]

Omg, you dont know heroic armour exist?

Go to coh stats for christ sakes lol.

You have been in EiR for a long time, you have lots of experience AmPM, I don't know how you don't know that.


If you doubt the picture go to cohstats. If you doubt it even more go to RGD's yourself.
Thats pretty much what I do with my oakleaves lol, oh yeah thats right i must left click to activate assault ooh i forgot.

In the RGDs the only thing that it gives you is a worse damage mitigation than Soldier, Elite, AB, etc.

All you get is a minor reduction in accuracy. Elite armor is better in every way.

My bad, it's better than Infantry Armor. Sadly, it's not worth a damned thing vs normal weaponry. Also, that .50 or 75mm sherman gun may miss, on the other hand, KCH can't hurt it worth a damn.

We should play a game, you can rush your KCH at my BARs.

[DarkSoldierX]

In the RGDs the only thing that it gives you is a worse damage mitigation than Soldier, Elite, AB, etc.

All you get is a minor reduction in accuracy. Elite armor is better in every way.

My bad, it's better than Infantry Armor. Sadly, it's not worth a damned thing vs normal weaponry. Also, that .50 or 75mm sherman gun may miss, on the other hand, KCH can't hurt it worth a damn.

We should play a game, you can rush your KCH at my BARs.

I is in launcha

[Tymathee]

In the RGDs the only thing that it gives you is a worse damage mitigation than Soldier, Elite, AB, etc.

All you get is a minor reduction in accuracy. Elite armor is better in every way.

My bad, it's better than Infantry Armor. Sadly, it's not worth a damned thing vs normal weaponry. Also, that .50 or 75mm sherman gun may miss, on the other hand, KCH can't hurt it worth a damn.

We should play a game, you can rush your KCH at my BARs.

lol yeah your BARS, what would you do without your +3 BAR's though? Not everybody is going to use that.

and it's not *just* damage mitigation, it's a 15% accuracy bonus over infantry armor and 50% more suppression resistance, which is the real whiz of Elite Armor. when you have 4 men who receive 50% less suppression plus the buffs from doc abilities, it makes them real hard to get down. 

[AmPM]

What am I going to do? Laugh.

380 MP, 200ish MU coming at me, just kill it/run it over/blow it up; the same as you would Elite Armor Grenadiers or Stormies. AKA, easily.

Don't take the +1 BAR T3, or not infantry? Use a Grenade and normal BARs. Done.

[RikiRude]

ampm tym is right (did i say that out loud?  ), you keep talking about your bars and your rifles are so damned great. but 3 bars, +increased accuracy and damage you get from other tiers in that doctrine, not to mention if there is an officer around, of course THOSE bars are going to win out. but how about the bars everyone else has that doesnt run a company with the +1 bar and such.

[AmPM]

ampm tym is right (did i say that out loud?   ), you keep talking about your bars and your rifles are so damned great. but 3 bars, +increased accuracy and damage you get from other tiers in that doctrine, not to mention if there is an officer around, of course THOSE bars are going to win out. but how about the bars everyone else has that doesnt run a company with the +1 bar and such.

Then I would say that a t2 unlock unit, that costs more, and has at least a t3 supporting it should win. Since you are using unbuffed infantry with no supporting doctrine.

Want a cheap hardcounter? Quad, M8, Croc.

[RikiRude]

Then I would say that a t2 unlock unit, that costs more, and has at least a t3 supporting it should win. Since you are using unbuffed infantry with no supporting doctrine.

Want a cheap hardcounter? Quad, M8, Croc.

see i can agree with that, but oaks will do good damage (especially with P pills active) to a quad. might kill it if it has taken even just a pak shot.

croc is the best hard counter to oaks, but who the hell runs these in their companies? maybe people should, because when i bring my dual crocs on all hell breaks lose.

[AmPM]

see i can agree with that, but oaks will do good damage (especially with P pills active) to a quad. might kill it if it has taken even just a pak shot.

croc is the best hard counter to oaks, but who the hell runs these in their companies? maybe people should, because when i bring my dual crocs on all hell breaks lose.

TBH, if your Quad is in PFaust range you failed.

[shockcoil]

Even with normal BARs you just have to pop suppression fire, on both squads if necessary. Even fearless kch aren't doing shit when they're pinned and get naded/flamered/crushed/anything you can think of really, they're pinned. Yeah you'll take a lot of casualties but so will he and you can be sure you'll have more BARs than he will have kch.

[deadbolt]

crocs and smoke are pro, at misses ur tanks whilst flamers benefit from smoke.

[RikiRude]

TBH, if your Quad is in PFaust range you failed.

thats true too, but at long range it wont do much suppressing or pinning.

[Smokaz]

Yes it will, but you have to pay attention to it building up supression on a the same squad. If it turns to shoot some other squad it will not succeed unless they are next to each other. Your better off waiting until you can use 2 at the same time, thats where they shine.