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[TheIcelandicManiac]

Link to news story

Some nice music to go with it

[Masacree]

Old news, and they've already found the cause of the discrepancy.

[Spartan_Marine88]

Old news, and they've already found the cause of the discrepancy.

Really?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/oct/28/physicists-check-neutrinos-faster-light


And no, this in no way affects modern day physics, as theory on FTL was just that a theory. Even if possible were a long way away from being able to making this practical

[BigDick]

that news is more than a month old - im surprised bbc found out now lol

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/22/us-science-light-idUSTRE78L4FH20110922

now they check for errors during experiment

the most likely error is the different pulse shape

http://profmattstrassler.com/2011/10/26/a-few-tidbits-from-nagoya-including-opera-news/


so its in no where proved yet

[Sachaztan]

Old news, and they've already found the cause of the discrepancy.

lol unless you got a source to go with that, you're jsut pulling it out of your arse

[Falcon333]

lol unless you got a source to go with that, you're jsut pulling it out of your arse

http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php

[Demon767]

The informal language used in that article disproves that source lol

[Sachaztan]

http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php

When i first read about this experiment, it said specifically that they had accounted for that.

I mean do you honestly believe that they didn't think of this before the experiment. Even I knew about this, and I am pretty damn far from being a particle physicist!

[Falcon333]

If you want the actual report:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1110/1110.2685v3.pdf

Which you can find through: http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2685

[Spartan_Marine88]

If you want the actual report:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1110/1110.2685v3.pdf

Which you can find through: http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2685

Key line in this whole report that means its bullshit

"Admittedly,
the calculation here presented contains some simplifying assumptions"

But if your still convinced

take a look at their conclusion

"We showed that a potential correction to the OPERA experiment is obtained if we hypothesize
that they measure the Lorentz transformation-corrected time of flight as measured from a clock
in a non-stationary orbit."

They state, NOT fact, untested unproven theory.

[EscforrealityTLS]

@Spartan_Marine88

Twice in this thread you have miss-understood the meaning of scientific theory, you appear to be confusing it with hypothesis. Yes in common English they can be used (confusingly) interchangeably, but scientifically to be promoted from a common hypothesis to the position of theory is not trivial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

[Falcon333]

When the experiment was publicized, the scientists behind it said that this had to be confirmed. They simply gave their results and looked for insights from other scientists.

Lots of hypothesis(es?) were formulated but there hasn't been, to this day, a conclusion that has enough evidence to back it up.

Unless you can link me someplace that has this?

[Sachaztan]

If you want the actual report:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1110/1110.2685v3.pdf

Which you can find through: http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.2685

Thanks for the links.

Sadly this is WAY above my level and the fact that I have to rely on others for the thinking together with all the different explanations means I can't say what is true and what is not.

I will just have to wait until the scientific community reaches a consensus and so should you guys.

[Demon767]

Thanks for the links.

Sadly this is WAY above my level and the fact that I have to rely on others for the thinking together with all the different explanations means I can't say what is true and what is not.

I will just have to wait until the scientific community reaches a consensus and so should you guys.

+1111111111111

[Masacree]

This is what I was referring to.

http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php

It's 17 days old. So, old news.

[Falcon333]

I already linked that same article above.

[Masacree]

Yeah, I realized that after I posted it :p