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[Steinmarder]

Hi everyone, thought i give it a try and make an Invasion map for EiR.

So far i have chosen to include as few as possible objectes/splats/splines etc. to ensure the map
runs fine in the final.

Now i need inspiration how to best fill up the rest and, especially, input how it will work out in EiR /
what i have to think about because i couldnt play an EiR match myself yet.


The actual version is allready playtestable and tweaked for things like tank paths, so if someone wants to check it out i will add a dl link.

Allright now gimme some input folks

[Compact Flash]

That looks brilliant!

[Apex]

Map looks very well made technically. But it will be problematic for eir gameplay. It is too small, and the is only 1 real line of defense, which is the cliffs. You either hold them there, or he breaks through, games might end in stalemates, or will be over quickly after one sudden breakthrough. In EiR where the player with less sectors get vps subtracted, this is not an ideal setup. I would keep this part as something like a first line of defense, and extend the map further land inward, about 3 times as long as it is right now. Then add a 2nd main position which could be a trench system, in the middle of the map, where the majority of the fighting takes place. 3rd and last line could be an axis base with buildings and some bunkers.

Some other small things:
- add another cliff access on the left side of the map.
- more cover on the beaches (tank wrecks), and some corpses for flair
- more battlefield destruction further inland (fires, downed planes, dead cows etc.)
- dont link your thumbs to porn pics
- craters are too much restricted to the beach
- some small trenches between the bunkers and some lone sandbag positions at the exits of the beach entrances

[Steinmarder]

Allright, hope I wont mess up too much of the cliffs with the stamp now.

Thanks for the responses and the flowers still have to figure much out in the Worldbuilder

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

hummmmm, ppoorrnn..... anyway, nice map looks awesome, but follow apexes suggestions, a few more fall back points would be nice

[Steinmarder]

Whats with the porn  i see no porn 

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

it was apex seeing if you were paying attention (i think).

[Unkn0wn]

Very nice, especially if you're pretty new to the worldbuilder. That's amazing, keep it up .

Also, I think Henry666 already made a map called "invasion" so you might have to rename it.

[Steinmarder]

Allright i made changes according to the comments, tell me what you think.

Next thing ill work on is the paths again and read me into the shoot blocking via the
movement_blocker_shot_block thing, at the moment its pretty evil with heavy tanks behind the cliffs.

Other eyecandy will be added too, eg at least 1 or 2 downed planes but i think it should be enough
now with the craters. Players will generate many more quickly

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[Steinmarder]

ah yeah, and its "Overlord" now if invasion is allready taken and overlord still available

[Thtb]

Keep in minde that the Defenders have 2 mins or more to BLOCK off all the bottlenecks!

Will proaply requite them to get 1 engy or goliaht to the way up and blow it free .
If you find a way to prevent mine laying there it woud surely help out, too.

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

this map could be good for scar missions, any ideas people?

[Steinmarder]

hm, i think it shouldnt be a piece of cake to get off the beach but im planning on dividing the sectors in a way that you have an advantage as soon as you have taken the forward cliffrows. So if the defenders want to win they have to keep em at the beach or drive em back there.

For the mines, hows it excactly with mine laying in EiR? In regards of territory

[Thtb]

In evrykinde of territory.

[Apex]

looking good. too many sandbags imo. scrap some of the sandbags on the lower land levels (center map part) and replace them with trenches. also i think bunkers in the center map part dont fit somehow. and i would extend one of the tree corners to a real forest.

[DasNoob]

instead of the huge concrete bunkers, try some fortified trenches and maybe a few wood duggouts?   

Man i can't wait to start testing this map.  It looks great!

As far as getting off of the beach.... it should be really hard.  I wouldn't worry too much about mines or obstacles... it will force players to plan to "clear the shingle" before they can get in the causeway... very historically accurate.  We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out in an EiR match.

[Wraith547]

^You say that now

Till you get stuck behind four deep alternating traps and wire

[DasNoob]

2 minutes is not enough time for them to be setup if you enter the map from the far end.  You might be able to get a few obstacles up, but not an insane amount. 

After the mine sweepers go in... heavy crushing pershing?

[AmPM]

Hmm...you have inspired the AmPm. Not in a direct way but nonetheless, it reminds me of the D-Day Blitzkrieg map....I think a lot of those maps would work well converted into CoH!!!

Something to do!!!

[DasNoob]

I love the map with the town and the fields approaching it... we used to play that one a lot.