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Author Topic: Ninja nerf to volks  (Read 5985 times)
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Firesparks Offline
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« on: July 11, 2011, 08:51:05 pm »

the volks kar in EIRR have higher cooldown than compare to Vcoh eirr.

vcoh : 1.3 sec wind down + (.75 cooldown x 1.25 long range modifier) = 2.2375 sec

eirr: .5 wind down + (1 cooldown X 2.32 long range modifier) = 2.82 sec
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2011, 09:15:46 pm »

acutally, their dps is higher than in vcoh now.
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Firesparks Offline
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2011, 09:21:33 pm »

acutally, their dps is higher than in vcoh now.
the dps calculator in coh stats seems to be broken for the volks kar and lee enfield long range.Try to use the formula manually.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2011, 09:22:39 pm »

i am using the formula manually: http://forums.europeinruins.com/index.php?topic=19104.0
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Firesparks Offline
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2011, 10:31:12 pm »

did you check the long range dps? that thread only show the mid range dps.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2011, 10:38:05 pm »

A nerf was definitely not intended when this was made. It was changed so the rifles benefited from cooldown bonuses better. If the dps is alot higher/lower than it should be after this change then we should fix that.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2011, 09:58:00 am »

did you check the long range dps? that thread only show the mid range dps.

that thread is no wiki, its a how to.
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Firesparks Offline
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2011, 11:16:23 am »

after calculation:
volks kar long range(eirr): 1.07
volks kar long range (vcoh): 1.2

needs to lower the long range modifier and add .5 to all the reload time affected by the wind down change.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2011, 11:50:37 am »

well either you or my macro is doing a wrong calculation.

macro results:
volks kar long range(eirr): 1.26
volks kar long range (vcoh): 1.2
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Firesparks Offline
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2011, 11:56:55 am »

we need a third opinion. TURN ON THE MYST SIGNAL .


actually you calculated the wrong weapon. the volks uses kar_98k_rifle_vg.

Your calculation is for the kar_98k_rifle which no one uses afaik. the luft ground force uses.
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2011, 12:39:39 pm »

right. so all whats wrong is that when you changed the stormtrooper and luftwaffe kar you forgot to change the volks rifle too?
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2011, 12:47:40 pm »

Yes.
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Firesparks Offline
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2011, 12:53:53 pm »

the volks kar wasn't corrected with the change, yes
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BigDick
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2011, 01:02:02 pm »

and i always knew it, volks were shit!!! fail to kill anything
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DarkSoldierX Offline
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2011, 01:28:31 pm »

And as if long range DPS really matters for normal infantry lol.
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2011, 02:08:21 pm »

and i always knew it, volks were shit!!! fail to kill anything

team em with officer,you will be surprised by results Wink
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BigDick
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2011, 02:12:00 pm »

i can do that with grens too 1000x better
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smurfORnot Offline
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2011, 02:15:41 pm »

then use grens,I dont see reason why should I use grens,when I can beat rifles with volks,have full package on them for 65mun(faust and medikit),and recrew 2 weapons for less mp...my whole volk coy is doing actually rly good.
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