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Malgoroth Offline
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2009, 11:26:37 pm »

Are you kidding?  Supply drop is by far the most OP doctrine ability in the game, especially for a tier 1.

The devs are already aware of this and it will be replaced once they finish the doctrines, its just a placeholder atm.

What other tier 1 ability gives you about 1000 manpower and 350 munitions of units for free?

I'm not defending the support weapons. Only the shreck usage. I'll agree with you on the mortars and mgs and shit.
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2009, 11:27:12 pm »

I think you're also missing the part where one of his anti-infantry assets completly counteracted any chance of Tankbusters being fragile or slow. Not that vet 3 tankbusters are fragile OR slow in the first place.

Omg! he supported his AT! OP OP!
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2009, 11:29:43 pm »

You're completely missing the point. When a FOUR POP unit has all the anti-tank you're likely going to need, and can last the whole game when it's well-used, you have between NINETEEN AND THIRTYSIX POP to dedicate to supporting it. The entire point is about pop-effectiveness.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2009, 11:31:09 pm »

Wow really? did I say I was upset cuz I lost? No, I brought this up because He was able to get 240 mu worth of supplies on the field in the first minute on one unit by only spending 25pp on it. I could care less if I won that game or lost it, I planned on making this thread half way through when we looked like we could've won it.

This whole thing is axis vs allies in this thread. The point of fact is, he did abuse his ability, I could care less how you look at it. He could use his vet 3 tank buster squad with 3 schrecks on it to just sprint, which btw, unlike fire up has no negative when you use it other than you can't break suppression.

Tank Buster Infantry (1.2)
-Vet1 Received damage 0.85
-Vet2 Accuracy 1.2, Received Accuracy 0.9, Sprint Ability
-Vet3 Health 1.1, Cover ability*, Damage 1.2

so he gets 20% more accuracy, which btw means he will nearly 100% of the time (which if you watch the replay, i dont even think the thing misses) and he gets more damage, which means that with one volley that's 426 damage.

and pak, you talking about storms is not related ot this discussion for one, they hae double the health of tb squads, can cloak and were able to have two schrecks on it. If you look at the board, the closet other tank buster squad only had 130 xp on it, that's a 500 xp gap. You can't tell me that he hasn't been doing this in multiple games.

I'm not the first to bring this up but this is the first time i've seen it used this way.. It basically negated all armor i used to take down his halftracks and stop trying to be a smart ass with me ampm. I never talked about using my tanks to kill the squads okay.

Anyway, thank god the devs realize that this is Op and are changing it, I j ust thought i'd bring video and replay evidence of it. All I said was take out the AT weapon, i dont care as much about the support weapons tbh. they just weaken their ability to protect it by using infantry to man them.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2009, 11:31:56 pm »

I find it funny the only ones defending this are the ones most likely to use/abuse the system, the axis players. That kinda lets you know something.

and if anyone tries to say that I'm bias, I could've sworn I brought up video evidence of boys at rifles being OP, I reported the vet 3 howie bug when reinforcements first came out etc etc. I've been as unbias as possible, and I play both sides and i would've said the same thing about what he did if i'd played with him.
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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2009, 11:36:12 pm »

And the player who lost immediately comes to the forums to complain that shrecks from the supply drop was OP and "breaks the game". Kinda lets you know something.



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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2009, 11:37:56 pm »

And the player who lost immediately comes to the forums to complain that shrecks from the supply drop was OP and "breaks the game". Kinda lets you know something.

and I quote "I could've sworn I brought up video evidence of boys at rifles being OP"

I did that after I played a game 3 straight times with someone who spammed Boys AT Rifles last night. Your argument is moot.
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2009, 11:38:03 pm »

Regardless if his thread sounds like a big whine... Supply Drops as a battle advantage are on the chopping block as well as the Doctrine ability. And they've been on the chopping block for a while, we just haven't gotten around to it.
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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2009, 11:38:23 pm »

For the Record, That was an R+ game Because I created it.  So Its not like we meant to defend.  Who in the right mind would defend with an army that gets no... oh wait I guess we did get supply drops.  Well I still didn't mean to cause that.
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« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2009, 11:40:33 pm »

Anywho, I'm done arguing. I"m not whining, I am just bringing something up I felt broke the game thats all. I do it all the time for all four sides.
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« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2009, 11:42:44 pm »

And the player who lost immediately comes to the forums to complain that shrecks from the supply drop was OP and "breaks the game". Kinda lets you know something.

and I quote "I could've sworn I brought up video evidence of boys at rifles being OP"

I did that after I played a game 3 straight times with someone who spammed Boys AT Rifles last night. Your argument is moot.

You said "it breaks the game" FIRST SENTENCE. You gave yourself away right there with your drama.

But ANYHOW, The damn things are getting nerfed anyway so I suppose there's no reason to keep this up.  
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« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2009, 12:18:48 am »

Supply Drop + Vet 3 TB squads are a BITCH to play against. I had to play against like 6 of them just now. It's a butchering.
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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2009, 12:58:33 am »

i just find it annoying how PE players, who aren't supposed to have mortars or HMG's are givin them almost every game because of this... if they want hmgs or mortars make them take the reinforcements.
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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2009, 01:00:50 am »

they need to just remove them entirely...
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« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2009, 01:04:05 am »

Hmm....remove AB supply drop as well!! ZOMG!

Or stop noobstomping, thats the only way they get TPs
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wildsolus Offline
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« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2009, 01:14:43 am »

you told me to join Sad
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« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2009, 01:28:44 am »

Hmm....remove AB supply drop as well!! ZOMG!

They're talking about the luftwaffe t1 ability, which currently by far the best t1 or even t2 in the game.   Its around 1000 free manpower and 350 free munitions.

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Or stop noobstomping, thats the only way they get TPs

See above.
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« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2009, 02:19:22 am »

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Guderian Offline
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« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2009, 02:45:19 am »

Okey so let me get this straight:


We have confirmed that the supply drops is getting nerfed, that in the replay the v3 tb squad is all he needs as at. (tough still wtf a tank or something else can come along)


Now: WTF are we arguing about?
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« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2009, 02:51:25 am »

BrenButton + FOO Shocked
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