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Author Topic: Remember the Wehr Leaderboard?  (Read 7968 times)
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« on: June 18, 2009, 05:19:06 pm »

Well, here's the US one.

1 Rangers
2 Rangers 
3 Rangers
4 M4 Sherman 
5 Rangers 
6 Rangers 
7 Rangers
8 M4 Sherman 
9 M4 Sherman 
10 Rangers
11 Rangers 
12 57mm Anti-Tank gun
13 Rangers 
14 Rangers 
15 Rangers 
16 Rangers
17 Rangers
18 M4 Sherman
19 Staghound (T17) 
20 M4 Sherman


Noticing a pattern there? Perhaps there's something to be done about it?
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2009, 05:19:33 pm »

19 Staghound (T17) 

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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009, 05:20:39 pm »

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12 57mm Anti-Tank gun

I like that one, personally, but that's not really the point here  Cheesy

EDIT -

Also, here's the British one

1 Commandos 
2 Commandos 
3 Commandos 
4 Commandos
5 Commandos
6 Piat Commandos 
7 Commandos
8 Captain 
9 Commandos 
10 Commandos 
11 Tommy Infantry Section 
12 Commandos
13 Tommy Recon Section 
14 Commandos 
15 Sappers
16 Commandos
17 Commandos 
18 Cromwell
19 Tommy Infantry Section
20 Churchill

Looks like we have the same rough problem.
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Mukip Offline
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2009, 05:25:20 pm »

The "problem" being that elite inf rack up kills faster than anyone else and shoot up the vet table.  There's 9 Grenadiers on the Wehr leaderboard btw.
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Malevolence Offline
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2009, 05:28:08 pm »

Yes, but those are residual grenadiers and appear to be slowly dying off, before there were ten or 11, and an additional 7 or 8 stormtroopers.
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Fr3ek Offline
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2009, 05:31:09 pm »

What, what else would you expect to be on the leader board?
 
Sherms are vehicles and die too easily
Rifles need help to just kill themselves
M10's are paper tigers which miss a lot
Paras are only half good against tanks

Rangers (and I suppose commandos share a lot with them) and commandos are the only allied inf that can kill & survive a lot.
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2009, 06:26:17 pm »

I'm sorry but units that I have to spend a lot of mp/munitions on, whether it's  rangers, commandos, storm troopers, kch, assault grens etc. I'd hope that they can surivive and rack up a lot of xp.

Rangers > Grenadiers

and thats how it should be. There's nothing you can change about Rangers to really nerf them.

on the other hand, grenadiers are basic main line infantry that every wehr have and the fact that there were so many on the leaderboard meant that they must've been really powerful for their cost. So, by giving them only one weapon, you make them main line infantry again instead of specialized infantry that you can get 10+ of.
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009, 06:27:11 pm »

Well, here's the US one.

1 Rangers
2 Rangers 
3 Rangers
4 M4 Sherman 
5 Rangers 
6 Rangers 
7 Rangers
8 M4 Sherman 
9 M4 Sherman 
10 Rangers
11 Rangers 
12 57mm Anti-Tank gun
13 Rangers 
14 Rangers 
15 Rangers 
16 Rangers
17 Rangers  <-- that's mine Cheesy
18 M4 Sherman
19 Staghound (T17) 
20 M4 Sherman


Noticing a pattern there? Perhaps there's something to be done about it?
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spinn72 Offline
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009, 06:39:53 pm »

it tells you what needs a vet increase Tongue
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Rocksitter Offline
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2009, 07:19:58 pm »

 KCH are elite infantry at there best!!!
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Latios418 Offline
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2009, 07:24:14 pm »

Now we're going to start balancing based on leaderboards?

Any infantry squad can get as high up as it wants if it's user is very conservative with it. On top of that, the leaderboard says nothing about cost. Obviously the things that cost the most are going to get the most xp - Each Ranger squad is more than 1/10th of your munitions if you get tommies on it (which 99% of people do).
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2009, 07:36:45 pm »

It was used a while ago to call schrek storms and grens OP, I figured in a similar vein I'd mention rangers.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2009, 07:46:55 pm »

lol this is proof enof that allys have the best eliet troops in the game.
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Rocksitter Offline
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2009, 07:47:03 pm »

 Ill go Rangers for the win please....
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Latios418 Offline
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2009, 08:04:17 pm »

But that doesn't mean the other person was right. If the double weapon nerf was because of leaderboard whinging, that's absolutely sad.
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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2009, 08:11:14 pm »

Don't really understand how the leaderboard explains things being overpowered or underpowered.. Rangers get kills thus lead the way in xp.
Grenadiers get kills thus lead the way in xp. And besides.. there's only 1 vet 3 gren less than both rangers and commandos combined.
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2009, 08:40:49 pm »

lol this is proof enof that allys have the best eliet troops in the game.

no it doesn't, what it shows is that nothing else can survive for the allies but rangers lol just look at how many vet 3 units there are for both allies against the axis units. Allied units just die in larger numbers than axis units.

Rifles are cannon fodders

m10's and m18s are basically throw away units.

so its hard to keep anything alive for too long
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Latios418 Offline
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2009, 08:47:01 pm »

need to implement abandon tank asap!
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Pak88mm Offline
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2009, 09:00:22 pm »

nerf rangers and commandos.
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2009, 09:14:54 pm »

nerf rangers, commandos, sprint cooldown and the luftwaffe ketten speed.
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