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Author Topic: Suggestions for armor doctrine  (Read 2953 times)
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Smokaz Offline
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« on: June 20, 2009, 11:53:06 pm »

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Engine Overdrive (Shermans can purchase flank speed, 50% faster, 20s duration)
Battlefield Improvements (Half tracks, Quads Jeeps and M8s/T17s receive 10% less damage)
Scouting (Jeeps gain 25% more stealth detection, 15% longer sight range)
Mechanized Columns (Platoons with a vehicle, other than a jeep, arrive in battle 50% faster)
Mobility (M8s, Halftracks & T17s can capture territory)

Tungsten Tipping (Penetration of all vehicles increased by 15%)
Artillery Support (Calliope available for purchase)
Scoot and Shoot (M10s, Shermans & M18s reload 10% faster)
Mobile Warfare (M10s, M18s, Shermans and Pershing are 10% harder to hit)
Mark Target (available for purchase on jeeps, M10 & M18)

TBA
Tank Command (Every tank on the field increases your population by 3)
Assault Tanks (Pershing available for purchase)
Field Repair (Grants the abillity)
Crew Repairs (Repair kit upgrade now grants 2 uses)

Dual Rocket Racks (Calliope fires 50% more rockets)
M26A1E2 Pershing (Pershing gains 30% damage and penetration and a different skin)
On-board mechanics (All tanks come with a free use of 'Crew Repairs' ingame and can move while using it)
Next-Gen Vehicles (All vehicles have 50% faster turret rotation, 20% less reload)
Armor Piercing (Upgunned Shermans receive AP rounds on a cooldown, Pershing now gets HVAP upgrade)

Hey, Gamesguy told me the Devs are looking for suggestions for how to improve the armor doctrine. I have some ideas:

T4 - "Pattons Jumbo Shermans" - Shermans gain 25% health and 25% reduced incoming penetration (Historically correct!)
T3 - Sandbag Shermans - Shermans can buy a 50 munitions upgrade that reduces penetration from handheld at by 25% (historycally incorrect!)
T2 - Tank destroyers - M10's get a 25% reduced incoming accuracy modifer

Improvements to current armor doctrine abilities:
- On board repairs give as many repairs as you want with 1.5 x higher cooldown
- Pershing is unlocked as a unit choice by picking any tier 3
- M26A1E2 Pershing is now a tier 3 that improves the Pershing
- Flank speed is not available on Mine Flail Shermans
- Flank speed is now available on m10's at a reduced rate
- Tungsten tipping now affects Pershings
« Last Edit: June 21, 2009, 12:13:49 am by Smokaz » Logged

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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2009, 11:53:50 pm »

First.. Lolz.
Secondly... Lolz.

I really have no idea what to say to this.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2009, 11:58:25 pm by Scyn » Logged

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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2009, 12:05:28 am »

German steel is 25% more hp and 15% less received penetration for all tanks.

A sherman only buff of say 25% less received damage and 15-20% less received penetration seems pretty fair.

Armor really needs some kind sherman only t4.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2009, 12:07:22 am by gamesguy2 » Logged
CryingWolf Offline
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2009, 12:10:50 am »

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T4 - "Pattons Jumbo Shermans" - Shermans gain 25% health and 25% reduced penetration (Historically correct!)
Wouldn't this kinda make your tanks worse?  Huh
Or do you mean, Your shemans get penetrated less? If so, I guess that could work in a way, since its a T4...

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T3 - Sandbag Shermans - Shermans can buy a 50 munitions upgrade that reduces penetration from handheld at by 25% (historycally incorrect!)
Sounds like a nice idea, but probally make the penetration debuff a little less. -25% seems a bit extreme, but I really don't know CoH stat's so I'm not in a good position to say.

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T2 - Tank destroyers - M10's get a 25% reduced accuracy modifer
I guess you mean recieving? I guess that could work, although once again, 25% seems a bit much, but It wouldn't know

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On board repairs give as many repairs as you want with 1.5 x higher cooldown
That wouldn't be fair in any sense unless the cooldown was EXTREMELY long, otherwise everyone would get this as a doctrine choice since of its OPness, and with a bit of micro be able to keep a pershing for example on from start to end simply because they can repair it, Which in no way would be fair....

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Pershing is unlocked as a unit choice by picking any tier 3
If this was to be added, then Everyone else should be able to get their "tanks" like so, (eg, Terror getting KT with Tier 3 choice). I think it should stay as a upgrade like everyone else has to Cheesy

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Flank speed is not available on Mine Flail Shermans
Makes sense, This sounds like a good idea Smiley

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Flank speed is now available on m10's at a reduced rate
Can M10's get Flank speed? If so, then It might be justiable, since they do rely on speed and turret speed rather then brute strength to take out tanks. If not, They should probally grant it as so.

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Tungsten tipping now affects Pershings
I think the pershing doesn't really need the extra penetration, I believe they pentrate good enough for them not to need it, but I haven't really been up against too many Pershings, but they seemed able to penetrate easily enough.

That's my view of your Ideas, some Good, some Ok and could do with a little editing and some just bad Smiley

Edit-
I really have no idea what to say to this.
As you can tell, I did Smiley
« Last Edit: June 21, 2009, 12:15:38 am by CryingWolf » Logged

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BigDick
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2009, 01:11:19 am »

why not making the pershing a resource free when your are @T3 with an in reserve of 5

and flank speed should affect the pershing too...with doubled duration and speed because its a huge tank

onboard mechanics should give unlimited free repair kits you can still overwhelm the pershing with a blob of KTs, panthers and Jagdppanthers
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CryingWolf Offline
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2009, 01:27:27 am »

blob of KTs, panthers and Jagdppanthers
.............Blob....KT's, Panthers and Jadg....lolwut
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