Barbed Wire/Tank Trap Building Times

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[spinn72]

Lately i've seen almost half a map wired by the start of an attack/defense game.  I really think these things build too quickly, and since most rollouts are infantry only with support weapons it really buggers things up when youre blocked and have to PIAT/ATG the barbed wire to death.

Barbed wire is probably 3 second building time, but since i dont know a 30-50% increase in building time should be sufficient.  It should be marginally easier to throw across than Tank traps, which currently take a while but may need a 10-20% increase in building time.

This is just to make attacks much easier. Nothing worse than one side being completely blocked off then the other side defended by Mgs/paks/mortars or 88s, since by the time the wire or tank traps are down they've had the time to move.

Edit:  From CoHStats -> http://coh-stats.com/Structure:Barbed_Wire

Increase to 7 seconds maybe???

http://coh-stats.com/Structure:Tank_Traps

Possibly increase to 33 or 35 if so be, or even decrease health to 500

Apparantly all barbed wire and Tank traps are the same, even though they may look different.

[CommanderHolt]

The Wehr have an advantage has both Volks and Grens can build Wire and sandbags without the need for doctrine unlocks.

[Malevolence]

may need a 10-20% increase in building time.

No, tank traps are fine. If anything they should build a little FASTER. Too few of them being used as it is.

[Jazlizard]

Tank traps are ridiculous, they take forever. Wire is easily made, but it's easy to destroy as well.

[31stPzGren]

You're all NUBS! They are perfectly fine as it is.

If anything else, I noticed their build times are actually decreased from old EiR. Bring Corc + Bulldozer = easy. Tank traps are actually faster to build. I know cause I spammed tank traps last time.

[RaptorCommander]

Lately i've seen almost half a map wired by the start of an attack/defense game.  I really think these things build too quickly, and since most rollouts are infantry only with support weapons it really buggers things up when youre blocked and have to PIAT/ATG the barbed wire to death.

Barbed wire is probably 3 second building time, but since i dont know a 30-50% increase in building time should be sufficient.  It should be marginally easier to throw across than Tank traps, which currently take a while but may need a 10-20% increase in building time.

This is just to make attacks much easier. Nothing worse than one side being completely blocked off then the other side defended by Mgs/paks/mortars or 88s, since by the time the wire or tank traps are down they've had the time to move.

Edit:  From CoHStats -> http://coh-stats.com/Structure:Barbed_Wire

Increase to 7 seconds maybe???

http://coh-stats.com/Structure:Tank_Traps

Possibly increase to 33 or 35 if so be, or even decrease health to 500

Apparantly all barbed wire and Tank traps are the same, even though they may look different.

Spin thats becuase you have be playing me and when ever my grens or volks or pios are not attacking they are building wire and sanbags.

Also with 3 pios you can close of choke points pretty fast especially in defend if the allies don't use the 'side' routes at the start.

[31stPzGren]

Spin thats becuase you have be playing me and when ever my grens or volks or pios are not attacking they are building wire and sanbags.

Also with 3 pios you can close of choke points pretty fast especially in defend if the allies don't use the 'side' routes at the start.

Moral of the story, play another map.

[CommanderHolt]

Sappers should be able to build Tank Traps, don't know why they can't...

[spinn72]

Spin thats becuase you have be playing me and when ever my grens or volks or pios are not attacking they are building wire and sanbags.

Also with 3 pios you can close of choke points pretty fast especially in defend if the allies don't use the 'side' routes at the start.

Moral of the story, play another map.

Lol not many 2v2 maps are that big, and you never know when you get attack/defend now.

[Tymathee]

its fine, at least it doesnt build as fast as in vcoh

[RaptorCommander]

Also do britsh have and non-doctrine super-heavy crush units?

If they don't this may be the critical problem. As wher have panther and americans have buldozer croc. PE had berb tiger (don't know about now though). So maybe the brits need a bulldozer kangaroo or firefly prehaps.

[Warlight]

Royal Engineers do.  Royal Arty could just blast the thing, and Really Commandos just land on the other side or Demo, if demo charges work.  All americans get Crocs and all Axis get panthers.  But then I don't considerd said vehicles to be primary tank and hedge runner overs. 

The HUGE thing I'm noticing is the the doctrains can't be near as indipendant as they used to be. 

Before the units were so limited you could build an all around force and cover all your bases. 

The thing that is Quite literaly killing my Tank hunters is the lack of infantry healing from the Radio scout car.  I've got repair kits for my tanks.  But I need a way to extend teh life of my infantry, tank busts and assualt grens.  One gun fight I'm I'm spent most cases.

Now you have to really depend on other people to bring healing, and morters and MG's, and to be good at killing infantry, while someone else has the heavy artillery, and so forth.

Shoot, I need to find me a scourched earth guy to play with, and I'll probubly still be getting SE reinfocements, as much as I'd like thos axis morters and stuff.  But I'll stop here, while I'm still kinda on topic.
 

[Unkn0wn]

The thing that is Quite literaly killing my Tank hunters is the lack of infantry healing from the Radio scout car.  I've got repair kits for my tanks.  But I need a way to extend teh life of my infantry, tank busts and assualt grens.  One gun fight I'm I'm spent most cases.

Some story for Americans, and most British don't use casualty clearing stations from what I've seen.

Imo PE don't need it that bad either, at least they don't in my play style which is 90% vehicle focussed.

[LeoPhone]

youre probably a noob spinn,

last ive played a game attack defend. and once the attackers were on field they waited at least 10 minutes before even entering our territory. and while the attackers were doing no shit, we were spamming wire everywhere AS IT SHOULD BE.

[Scyn]

No need for name calling.