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wildsolus Offline
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« on: June 22, 2009, 11:33:02 pm »

1 pop for an amazing spotter that is the fastest moving cloaked unit in the game?

please increase price, pop or halve the speed of the ketten (Luftwaffe only)

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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 11:34:26 pm »

Oh yes they are a headache to deal with if the PE player isn't a novice.
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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2009, 11:34:41 pm »

Speed is already halved.
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2009, 11:39:52 pm »

then consider increasing the pop for them or something? being able to have 2 or 3 kettens out for a very minimal cost and 2 or 3 pop scouting the whole map is just extremely powerful.

since some wehr players already have LOS bonus's on infantry from doctrine unlocks and kettens are the god of spotters, any competent axis will see any attack coming lol

@ scyn

it's already halved? lol
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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2009, 11:42:07 pm »

It's halved while under cloak, that's what I mean. Just thought I'd say that much.
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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2009, 11:45:53 pm »

It's the most cost effective scout in the game  Cool
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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2009, 11:47:22 pm »

It needs to cost more pop, at least 2, maybe even 3.
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bbsmith Offline
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2009, 11:47:31 pm »

Even if it doesn't get to move, the only way to find one is to run into it with a rifleman by chance or something.
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spinn72 Offline
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2009, 11:47:49 pm »

I think make it a Munitions upgrade, about 20 or 25 or so.  That will stop people from spamming them (like 3 or 4 a game).

their LOS is decreased which is fine, they do really have to get close to spot anything which makes them far less deadly at least.
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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2009, 11:48:48 pm »

Well that's because the only thing that has a good detection radius is a jeep. But in all seriousness we could make it cloak while in cover only.
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2009, 11:50:15 pm »

The best way I have of countering kettens is to make a new account so you get free scouting runs to find the ketten with.

You know allies do lack detection units.

Allies would benefit so much more from a vampire halftrack than PE would. Since most cloaked units are axis units anyways.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2009, 11:51:15 pm »

Well that's because the only thing that has a good detection radius is a jeep. But in all seriousness we could make it cloak while in cover only.

won't happen, probably could be a upgrade though as we have made other things upgrades...
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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2009, 11:51:33 pm »

Well.. if we make it cloak in cover only, that would definitely prevent  speedy cloaked scouts running around behind enemy lines finding the offmap targets. Which doesn't really have a tactical-skill value to it.. it's just quite imbalanced.
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2009, 11:53:13 pm »

its really not an issue though, we could look at the availability and upgrade purchase.  I believe the scorch one is a purchasable upgrade.. should be similar for falls.

the speed of the ketten isn't the issue.  Any stealther can do exactly what you just said.  sniper or storm or whatever. 

an upgrade that made it popcap 2 would probably make it more balanced for its speed though.
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2009, 11:54:13 pm »

Scouting Jeeps are freakin nuts...
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bbsmith Offline
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2009, 11:54:46 pm »

It should probably be an upgrade.
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gamesguy2 Offline
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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2009, 11:55:04 pm »

50 munitions and 1 pop for cloak.  If you are careful its totally worth it, but you cant spam it.
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2009, 11:55:15 pm »

Its only 1 doctrine choice that gets it out of the whole Axis side.
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2009, 11:55:27 pm »

Another upgrade on PE.. good lord. You poor PE players aren't going to have any munitions left.
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2009, 11:56:22 pm »

At this rate axis wont have any units that can cloak on the move left.
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