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tankspirit666
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Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:09:47 pm »
Watch Allied Ubermicro countering Vet. Masses Of the Axis.
Watch Axis Pro Players
Level 8
Wittman Level 8
JackMcKrak LEvel8
Crimson Level8
....
vs some Allies Casual Players
Level 1-3
Besides losses
King Tiger down ,
Hummel down ,
Flak 88 down ,
Tiger down
...... and much more ....
Death and Misery everywhere.
- They totally raped us. ! -
If you watched this replay and still think that Axis are not Overpowered watch and think again.
NERF!
http://www.filefront.com/13945486/axis_overpowered.zip
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Jazlizard
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:16:56 pm »
I can't tell if your being serious or not, level 8 'pros' vs level 1-3 'casual players' is generally always going to have the same result, it only gets worse the more players you add.
You could easily have a replay of pro ally vs casual axis.
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:18:17 pm »
sound pretty interesting - watching
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tankspirit666
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:20:33 pm »
Quote from: Jazlizard on June 29, 2009, 05:16:56 pm
I can't tell if your being serious or not, level 8 'pros' vs level 1-3 'casual players' is generally always going to have the same result, it only gets worse the more players you add.
You could easily have a replay of pro ally vs casual axis.
Jaz, yeah thats why i posted that. The axis had full Ressource Advantages , all Tiers unlocked, lost some precious units, made a lot of mistakes and still won the game in easy mode. Its a good example what's wrong of the balancing in this mod.
Jaz, just watch it and you will see what i mean.
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Jazlizard
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:23:02 pm »
I'll watch the replay when I have time, but generally when someone 'totally rapes you' it doesn't involve them making a lot of mistakes, just because they lost some big units doesn't really mean anything.
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tankspirit666
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:24:36 pm »
Quote from: Jazlizard on June 29, 2009, 05:23:02 pm
I'll watch the replay when I have time, but generally when someone 'totally rapes you' it doesn't involve them making a lot of mistakes, just because they lost some big units doesn't really mean anything.
Thats what im talking about Jaz, THEY can make mistakes. But if you do A NISTAKE as an aliied you are toast.
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Falcon333
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:25:59 pm »
Quote from: Jazlizard on June 29, 2009, 05:23:02 pm
just because they lost some big units doesn't really mean anything.
It means something, just not everything.
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Jazlizard
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:27:25 pm »
I completely disagree, it works both ways. They heavily out ranked you so simply had more to lose to start with.
I'm gonna watch the replay now.
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:27:35 pm »
No, if you make a mistake as a low level vs high level you are toast, it has nothing to do with which faction you are playing or going against.
Its really simple.
Level = doctrine + vet (usually) + resources
This means they have tougher units, with doctrine abilities backing them, and more of them. So yea, I would expect that they can lose a couple to a mistake and still win. Thats not a balance problem, thats how it works in any PvP level based game.
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tankspirit666
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:30:23 pm »
Quote from: AmPM on June 29, 2009, 05:27:35 pm
No, if you make a mistake as a low level vs high level you are toast, it has nothing to do with which faction you are playing or going against.
Its really simple.
Level = doctrine + vet (usually) + resources
This means they have tougher units, with doctrine abilities backing them, and more of them. So yea, I would expect that they can lose a couple to a mistake and still win. Thats not a balance problem, thats how it works in any PvP level based game.
AMPM watch the replay before you post, please.
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crimsonrabbit
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:31:59 pm »
Vet 3 Marder down?
My marder is still alive man, it never died that battle. Funny how easy it is to kill an 88 yet people still complain about it. I got 2 mandos on my 88 AGAIN!! We had to scuttle my own 88 AGAIN!
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:32:09 pm »
Lets get some things straight. Axis is a general term. PE are nowhere close to being "OP."
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:32:40 pm »
Quote from: DasNoob on June 29, 2009, 05:32:09 pm
Lets get some things straight. Axis is a general term. PE are nowhere close to being "OP."
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tankspirit666
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:34:26 pm »
People please POST AFTER YOU WATCHED THE REPLAY.
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crimsonrabbit
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 05:47:03 pm »
Quote from: tankspirit666 on June 29, 2009, 05:34:26 pm
People please POST AFTER YOU WATCHED THE REPLAY.
I dont need to watch the replay, I AM THE REPLAY!
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Jazlizard
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 06:07:08 pm »
I watched the replay. You guys had a good/great start, but at the 12 minute mark this game is over, you just didn't realize it.
You guys made huge mistakes, the first of which is probably the most blobbing I've ever seen in 1 game. Tank you yourself retreat 4 basically full health infantry squad, I didn't even get a chance to see why you did it, misclick?
The firestorm on the left at about 10 minutes was the turning point of the game and you never came close to recovering after that. You decrewed the 88 with mandos, re-crewed it with mandos and the axis blew it up with their own P4, even so the game was over at this point and the 88 didn't do much.
The KT was lost because of a poor decision on where to repair it, even so you lost a ton trying to kill it.
I didn't see a vet 3 marder die, even so it's just a marder.
I honestly suggest you watch the replay yourself, there is no ally uber micro in this game, although the axis did play like crap at the start.
There should be like a cooldown waiting period before posting a replay to 'prove' something much like buying a gun, I realize you may have been angry but making outrageous claims only reduces your credibility in the future, at least for me.
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petewinny23
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 06:47:02 pm »
Quote from: crimsonrabbit on June 29, 2009, 05:31:59 pm
Vet 3 Marder down?
My marder is still alive man, it never died that battle. Funny how easy it is to kill an 88 yet people still complain about it. I got 2 mandos on my 88 AGAIN!! We had to scuttle my own 88 AGAIN!
Funny how the only tactic i have seen work for it is a commando drop which is doctrine specific......i suppose and AB drop would work as well!!!!
Hardly the basis fo condeming the 88 to uselessness now is it! It rapes against pretty much anything else!
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IIPraeToriaNII
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 08:11:54 pm »
Quote from: crimsonrabbit on June 29, 2009, 05:47:03 pm
Quote from: tankspirit666 on June 29, 2009, 05:34:26 pm
People please POST AFTER YOU WATCHED THE REPLAY.
I dont need to watch the replay, I AM THE REPLAY!
hahahahahah lol lmao....
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CommanderHolt
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 29, 2009, 09:31:27 pm »
I agree with Jazlizard, I didn't see anything that would warrant the label "Ubermicro".
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tankspirit666
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Re: Epic 4 v 4 - Tiger, King Tiger, Hummel , 88 down, Vet3 Marder down
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June 30, 2009, 02:24:59 am »
Quote from: CommanderHolt on June 29, 2009, 09:31:27 pm
I agree with Jazlizard, I didn't see anything that would warrant the label "Ubermicro".
Holt,
you watched the replay and if you didn´t see Ubermicro what did you see ? Why did the Axis won this ?
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