Glaze
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« on: June 29, 2009, 06:17:37 pm » |
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Is it just me or are these things just a little TOO powerful against infantry? If you ask me I think the rate of fire could be a very tiny bit faster and maybe do a tiny bit more damage against tanks, but make it not as effective versus infantry? It gets pretty ridiculous when there is a big blob including 3 "AT" rifles blowing apart my veteran infantry and stuff.
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2009, 06:43:54 pm » |
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lol if you're talking about mine I had only one squad of vet 3 AT rifles accompained by 2 LTs one which was vet 2 which is going to rape infy so....otherwise no a vanilla squad of AT rifles isn't going to do well unless sitting in heavy cover with volks rushing it
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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2009, 06:47:19 pm » |
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AT rifle only does 15 damage a hit against infantry due to its damage modifier, its fine.
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2009, 06:49:15 pm » |
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it should probably giv e2 AT rifles for the upgrade and it's Target table needs some looking into i think. Mal's AT rifle couldn't even penetrate a StuG's rear armor
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2009, 06:50:36 pm » |
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I had an extremely lucky hit after shooting an ostwind (I had no AT around and it ambushed me) 10 times with it and it did some decent damage
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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2009, 07:22:23 pm » |
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with an LT they will rape any infantry.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2009, 07:22:51 pm » |
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Which doctrine gets the Boys AT Rifles?
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2009, 07:25:43 pm » |
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Which doctrine gets the Boys AT Rifles?
The Royal Boy Scouts. |
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2009, 07:53:32 pm » |
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That's just it though, how do these "AT" rifles do so well against infantry and so poorly against tanks? At least rename them to AI rifles. xD
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2009, 08:06:15 pm » |
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They are too light to do anything to tanks.  |
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2009, 12:18:43 am » |
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That's just it though, how do these "AT" rifles do so well against infantry and so poorly against tanks? At least rename them to AI rifles. xD
because after the first year in the war at rifles weren't very good vs tanks and were mainly used to take out individual parts on tanks and ag ainst light vehicles. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2009, 12:20:03 am » |
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Maybe AV (Anti-Vehicle) would be better suited
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2009, 12:35:32 am » |
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Regardless of what we call it anything short of Tigers/Panthers/Super heavies should not be bouncing rear armor hits
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2009, 02:03:07 am » |
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They are too light to do anything to tanks. Because it's just a K98 with a larger bullet, that's why. It's a 14.7 mm rifle. The k98 used to be 7.92 mm. So basicaly, it's a rifle with higher muzzle velocity and a huger bullet - quite effective against infantry indeed in real life, and that's basicaly what it was used for if no vehicles are around. |
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2009, 03:12:36 am » |
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They are too light to do anything to tanks. Because it's just a K98 with a larger bullet, that's why. It's a 14.7 mm rifle. The k98 used to be 7.92 mm. So basicaly, it's a rifle with higher muzzle velocity and a huger bullet - quite effective against infantry indeed in real life, and that's basicaly what it was used for if no vehicles are around. yea, just not as easy to do it and you'd have one shot and then have to move. They were great for sniping officers inside vehicles too  |
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2009, 08:52:16 am » |
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STOP whining about the AT rifle being to imba vs infantry. Maybe I will start whine about imba MP44 stomping every infantry unit in game! If the developers nerf the AT rifle no one will use it. Better to remove it completely if thats the case.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2009, 09:01:15 am » |
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That's the thing, MP44's are SUPPOSED to be good against infantry, and I'm not saying nerf it, I'm saying make it more useful against vehicles and less against infantry, which frankly would probably make it MORE useful since dealing with Axis tanks seems to be one of the biggest problems the Allies have.
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2009, 10:24:26 am » |
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Lol i have em on all squads, they rape. There like a recon section except its not an ability and automatic so you dont have to press a button. But if a guy got hit with a at rifle i dont think he would live. The accucury should be lessend but this would then weaken it agaisnt vehicals. And render it useless
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2009, 11:25:14 am » |
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It has a 25 percent chance to hit a guy and do 16 damage at point blank.
Honestly, seeing as a grenadier K98 has an 85 percent chance to do 15 damage at point blank, your argument that AT rifles are OP is just... stupid.
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2009, 12:42:51 pm » |
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seriously? well i musta been lucky when i used them that game....
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