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[Mysthalin]

The truelly high skilled players always chose a match of their own skill level rather than a noob stomp. If a player is considered good, and passes out on the opportunity of taking on a stack with a good player(or 2, if it's a 3v3) on his team, he is not actualy good - just a noob stomper for vet.

There is a difference between getting beat up with 3 guys with baseball bats, and fighting an interesting, well-matched game online.

[jackmccrack]

Exactly.

There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.

[jackmccrack]

No offense to any of those players. 

[Mysthalin]

I personaly just tell noobs to leave my game when I'm stacking with mukip or whatnot - there's no point watching them die horribly - if anything, it lowers mah skillz, tbfh.

[aklein210]

What, are you saying I should not join a game of similarly skilled players?

No, I am saying you should atleast warn your opponents that the game will be stacked, if not leave.  If people want to play games together then they should have to wait until a team of equal skill joins so that the game is fair.

The excuse most people give is that they want to play games together with friends, that is fine.  Except when a team of newbs joins and then they proceed to stomp on them. 

You say to avoid those games then, well that creates another problem.  Now the stacked game has to wait forever until someone plays them.

Auto match would solve both of these problems.  You can have an arranged team automatch as well so you can play with your friends, but you will have to wait to fight another arranged team instead of having an arranged team fight a random team.

[Smokaz]

Exactly.

There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.

Alwaysloseguy24 never backs down, retreats, asks for mercy or gives it.

[Two]

Exactly.

There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.

What a lie. It never gets boring :p Playing against high lvl wehr gets boring about 5 mins into the game due to their love of camping and letting their mortar be the unit with most kills.

[Pak88mm]

Exactly.

There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.

hahahahha. everyone assumes people love stacking and stomping but 5 minutes in you feel bad and are almost at awe that sheer incompetence of the opposing team.

[Illegal_Carrot]

Exactly.

There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.

hahahahha. everyone assumes people love stacking and stomping but 5 minutes in you feel bad and are almost at awe that sheer incompetence of the opposing team.

And yet they do it again and again..

[anthony210]

Exactly.

There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.

hahahahha. everyone assumes people love stacking and stomping but 5 minutes in you feel bad and are almost at awe that sheer incompetence of the opposing team.

I know people do not love stacking.  But they do it anyway.  Mainly because they want to play with their friends which is alright.  The problem comes when an arranged team of friends who play together all the time go up against a team of randoms who may or may not suck.  Usually that game turns out pretty one sided, not always, but usually.

Automatch and Arranged Team automatch if its even possible would solve this.  Want to play with your friends? OK but you will have to wait until another team of friends is ready to play you.

Barring that, there is no way to enforce it.  No matter what incentives you put in to play with new players,  people will want to play with their friends.  Just like people will avoid games that are stacked to avoid a loss.

[Tymathee]

Exactly.

There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.

hahahahha. everyone assumes people love stacking and stomping but 5 minutes in you feel bad and are almost at awe that sheer incompetence of the opposing team.

i'd have to agree. Winning under 20 minutes is no fun, especially since you get no pp, low xp and you dont gain a lot of vet cuz the game is just over so quickly.

[Rocksitter]

 Oh ya Jack Crack you beat me what one time with a stacked team so stop making it sound like you beat me a shit load of times has for you Pak what about the game I played on your team and you sat in the corner cuzz our ally tried to cap in the start all you did was start crying and did nothing to help your team let alone tell them you were gona  quit..

 I have seen you Pak back down from games with teams that did not look good for your side..

 Oh and Tim shut the hell up you never stomped me  save one time when boys AT was broke the only thing you stomp is 3 to 4 Big Macs...

 and Smoker the game we played together and you tried to spam flame pios and got your ass kicked I even outscored you that game and has far has you stomping me tell me when that happened... 

 So full of your selves .

 I play with or against anyone .

 SO Skrew you and keep my name out of your threds talk about yourselves theirs plenty to say..

[Lt_Apollo]

Exactly.

There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.

o fuck off. you do nothing but stack, i dont care who i play with and i dont care if i win. but i am not a fucking dumbass. its elitist shit like this that realy makes me hate portions of the EiR community. i may not be the best player i at least play with any one who is online even if that means i stand no chance. i would rather have a good game with my teamates than actualy join a stacked game to win and that has erned me a nice negative win loss ratio. i play to have fun and only to have fun.

i play allied stacked games due to the fact you guys make up a huge portion of the active playerbase and to avoid you would basicly mean that finding a game would become impossiable. if you stack against me i ensure you i will not stay past 20 min and you wont be vet hunting me.

[anthony210]

Why do you guys have to call them out by name...  That was kinda uncalled for and just gloating about your stack a bit eh?

[Aggamemnon]

Don't think we should be forced into auto team choices, or waiting for a "matched" team.

I play with Lem pretty much all the time, we play people who have 50/20 stats just as much as anyone else and still give them a good kicking. (win or lose)

I think the main problem is in large games with either a fully or partly random team going against 3-4 players who not only regularly play well together, but more than likely have complimentary doctrines and units, and have certain strategies etc, they like to use with those friends.

It has to be self policed really, especially for a growing/sustainable community and playerbase.

[anthony210]

Don't think we should be forced into auto team choices, or waiting for a "matched" team.

I play with Lem pretty much all the time, we play people who have 50/20 stats just as much as anyone else and still give them a good kicking. (win or lose)

I think the main problem is in large games with either a fully or partly random team going against 3-4 players who not only regularly play well together, but more than likely have complimentary doctrines and units, and have certain strategies etc, they like to use with those friends.

It has to be self policed really, especially for a growing/sustainable community and playerbase.

It obviously impossible to self police...  Stacking has been a problem in EiR for a LONG time. 

Why are you against having to wait for another arranged team to fight your arranged team?  Sure you will have to wait longer but you can be assured you will atleast be fighting another arranged team and not some random pug team.

I understand why people want to play together,  What I dont understand is why they wont wait and fight a proper team instead of bashing on whoever happens to join their game.  I would think it would be more fun to play with a random against another random team and have a decent game than to play with someone you know and play with all the time and bash on some randoms.

[Sach]

Exactly.

There is only so many times you can slaughter Lt Apollo, Rocksitter, and Alwaysloseguy24 before you get bored and fall asleep.

o fuck off. you do nothing but stack, i dont care who i play with and i dont care if i win. but i am not a fucking dumbass. its elitist shit like this that realy makes me hate portions of the EiR community. i may not be the best player i at least play with any one who is online even if that means i stand no chance. i would rather have a good game with my teamates than actualy join a stacked game to win and that has erned me a nice negative win loss ratio. i play to have fun and only to have fun.

i play allied stacked games due to the fact you guys make up a huge portion of the active playerbase and to avoid you would basicly mean that finding a game would become impossiable. if you stack against me i ensure you i will not stay past 20 min and you wont be vet hunting me.

I don't think I have played with Lt Apollo recently but not picking your games makes a huge difference to your ratio. I mean if you look at DeMarch he has some horrific 3 wins to 21 losses or something but hes actually a decent player and if he picked his games would probably be 1:1

[Ununoctium]

I don't think I have played with Lt Apollo recently but not picking your games makes a huge difference to your ratio. I mean if you look at DeMarch he has some horrific 3 wins to 21 losses or something but hes actually a decent player and if he picked his games would probably be 1:1

Hehe I prefer stacked games, I get PP and don't have to even bother fighting the enemy. And all my losses keep me under the radar.

[CrazyWR]

I'll second that about Demarch, I played with him, and he definitely is way better than his record.