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Author Topic: Panzer 4  (Read 12502 times)
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« on: July 11, 2009, 05:30:51 am »

Skirts need to go back to vet 2 and it couldnt hurt for the mg to go to vet 1. And id like to see a accuracy nerf at long/max range but i dobut thats guna happen.
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 05:48:10 am »

Obviously you would like the panzer 4 to be nerfed since it's commando's worst nightmare.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 05:50:25 am »

Since when did i only play mandos? The only thing its not a nightmare too is a pershing and even then the p4 can take a quarter to a half of its hp off before dieing/running into 10 paks
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 05:52:54 am »

Obviously you would like the panzer 4 to be nerfed since it's commando's worst nightmare.

It basically owns everythin, btw why did devs make skirts and mg upgradable at 0 vet? It was fine as it was.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 05:56:56 am »

Obviously you would like the panzer 4 to be nerfed since it's commando's worst nightmare.

It basically owns everythin, btw why did devs make skirts and mg upgradable at 0 vet? It was fine as it was.

good question, change it and the stug back. Skirts just make p4's way too powerful at times. And with it taking less damage from all sources, can tend to make them really crazy at times when spammed.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 05:59:07 am »

P4s are pretty tough to come by as brits if you don't send bren clown cars to deal with them.
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 06:04:35 am »

Its hard to see unskirted p4s... It could be like in old eir.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 06:38:32 am »

i think it would be pretty cool to make skirts go at Vet2, it would make Vet2 a massive advantage for a p4.  the MG should stay as is since the sherman can get it.

The vetted p4 (especially vet2+) is quite OP but then again so is the vetted tiger and KT
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 06:43:47 am »

Well, that should have a drastic price increase for all handheld allied at weapons as consequence, want to keep it balanced, donīt we (yeah, I feel like making stupid comments).
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 07:07:07 am »

Well, that should have a drastic price increase for all handheld allied at weapons as consequence, want to keep it balanced, donīt we (yeah, I feel like making stupid comments).

Yea that was a pretty stupid comment. If we do that, then we should raise all axis hand held at cuz its all better than a nything the allies field.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 07:14:16 am »

Thats a matter of opinion tym.
I would prefer RRs over schrecks.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 07:18:57 am »

in a way he is correct though, in some instances.  The RR price reflects greatly the price and availability of the skirts on those tanks.

The over all amount of hand held AT you see in most american companies, and the fact that every company has access to elite infantry, would probably weigh heavier into keeping the skirts then not ... and if they were gone you WOULD need a rebalancing of RRs and a look at bazooka's (non ranger anyways).

oh the days of the 210 ammo RR...

mm.. might go well with another change though!

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 07:26:20 am »

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Skirts need to go back to vet 2 and it couldnt hurt for the mg to go to vet 1. And id like to see a accuracy nerf at long/max range but i dobut thats guna happen.

In reponse I'd like Sherman Upgun to go to Vet 2 and .50 cal to go to Vet 2 were this to occur.

Though I doubt many armored players would dig that if they aren't Pershing spammers.
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 07:44:51 am »

I think noone would actualy give a fuck about the upgun being moved to vet 2, actualy.
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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2009, 07:49:21 am »

I don't think armored players would care since their Shermans can normally live until vet 2. I think everyone else might.
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2009, 07:51:43 am »

I honestly think the upgun shouldn't nerf the sherman's capability of fighting infantry just to make it stand a chance VS other tanks..

Considering the p4 has great penetration AND infy fighting capabilities without upgrading anything and then they simply buy skirts for even less recieved penetration is just far from balanced ;/

Lets make the upgun give the same penetration but have the same anti infantry capabilities as an upgunned sherman would..
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2009, 07:56:43 am »

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I don't think armored players would care since their Shermans can normally live until vet 2. I think everyone else might.

No, they wouldn't give a damn about it because upguning is made of utter and concrete fail.
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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2009, 08:21:45 am »

I really don't see any discrepancies between the 75mm and the 76mm other than the Penetration values and the AoE values.. which really aren't that significant. the AoE of the 76mm is larger, but essentially does 10% less damage than the 75mm. Not really seeing how the 76mm Upgun sucks so badly.

Seeing as how it's all I used in 005 with my armor company and I did fine. Hasn't been changed ever.
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2009, 08:34:36 am »

"Upgun sucks so badly"?

What planet are you from? Repeat after me: This mod is for "COMPANY OF HEROES"
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Scyn Offline
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2009, 08:36:38 am »

Umm.. Not really seeing your point there, Mal.
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