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« on: July 11, 2009, 12:24:16 pm » |
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Lets be honest right now noone wants to attack when theres no point, due to a warmap not being implemented right now, its just a almost guaranteed loss.
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AmPM
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 12:26:58 pm » |
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I like to attack.
Right now win and lose are pointless, so at least with attack its something different. It also means you get to see some different starting callins than just clowncars all the time.
Defending is fun too, and I think actually harder with my doctrine that attacking in the first place.
Also, certain Doctrines are made for the attack/defend scenario.
I say, remove reinforcements, and make it attack/defend and random, then give a bonus to being the attacker.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 12:28:42 pm » |
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It would promote clown cars but I wouldn't mind because I play Brits and PE
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 12:30:05 pm » |
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I've actually been able to win the last 3 attacks this week. People just forgot what actual coordinated attacking looks like.
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 12:31:42 pm » |
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If even teams play against eachother defenders will almost always win, atacking may be anoying, but atleast there are less clowncars, anyway I think that noobs should have higher chances to defend.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 12:33:26 pm » |
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 12:33:53 pm » |
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I have always wandered why they changed it to random. If I wanted to attack, I would play an attack game. Same goes for the other options.
What I don't like is not having a choice in what type of game I join.
Speaking of choice, wouldn't a kick option in the launcher be a great idea. Or how about map choice made in launcher as well.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 12:36:42 pm » |
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I think part of the reason was to avoid more gimmicky starting call ins.
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 12:38:15 pm » |
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Oh and the other thing, back when we had attack/defend we built our companies just for whatever it was, if i knew using R mode id get defend id change my entire core for defending, but i cant since i dont know.
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 12:42:19 pm » |
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Then instead of 1 25pop callin how about using smaller ones, that way you can pick and choose depending on what units you need.
OMG!! THOUGHT!! It might be hard for you to manage though.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 12:44:20 pm » |
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if i knew using R mode id get defend id change my entire core for defending, but i cant since i dont know.
Think that's kind of the point, Stops people making Amazing Defence/Attack builds that unstoppable. Since if you go defensive, and you gotta attack, It mess's up your company. I reckon it works better this way. More fun for starters. Plus, When R+ meant reforcement mode. It was ALL that everyone was playing, which I didn't think the EiR mod wants (Speaking for myself here). Keep how it is TBH  |
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 12:44:47 pm » |
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i hated random mode when it was first put in but after playing attack and defend lately i forgot how much fun it is to demolish an axis line or defend against a triple p4 start.
then again, i wish they could add one more mode in....MEETING ENGAGEMENTS!
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 12:45:42 pm » |
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Then instead of 1 25pop callin how about using smaller ones, that way you can pick and choose depending on what units you need.
OMG!! THOUGHT!! It might be hard for you to manage though.
OMG LONG CALL IN TIMERS tard And if you were going to war im sure youd know your attacking or defending and have a plan for it. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2009, 12:47:24 pm » |
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OMG LONG CALL IN TIMERS tard
Since when has a long callin timer lost you a game? |
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2009, 12:47:30 pm » |
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Attack and defend in random mode is great because it largely solves the problem of people coming up with ridiculous doomforts when they know they'll get to defend. I think the benefit of defending is mainly in morale right now, people usually complain when they get to attack but I take a positive attitude and I succeed on the attack more often than not. A lot of players have too many elite units as well and cannot afford to keep up an offense.
You can still build your company for attack and defence. My main 25 pop callin is for R mode and attack, but I have a backup plan for defending too. Personally I don't want it to change because I want people to be forced to improve their gameplay rather than getting to pick what suits them all the time. People who can't do well on the attack make me cringe when they go first in R mode.
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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2009, 12:48:40 pm » |
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Random > Reinforcement
Reinforcement mode is just another nail in the coffin of playing with new guys.
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2009, 12:49:40 pm » |
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Then instead of 1 25pop callin how about using smaller ones, that way you can pick and choose depending on what units you need.
OMG!! THOUGHT!! It might be hard for you to manage though.
OMG LONG CALL IN TIMERS tard And if you were going to war im sure youd know your attacking or defending and have a plan for it. Only long if you keep losing your stuff fast  |
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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2009, 12:53:22 pm » |
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OMG LONG CALL IN TIMERS tard
Since when has a long callin timer lost you a game? An example; Tiger is scrambling away and hits repair on RTC, 50second timer for m10, tiger is nearly repaired when uarrive. Where as if u had say a 20second timer u'd be there making him babysit the thing and call it off. |
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AmPM
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2009, 12:55:13 pm » |
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You might have a plan for it, but at the Company/Battalion level its not going to change what units you have available to do said fighting.
It's not like you get a completely different setup for defending or attacking in real life either. You make do with what you CHOSE to put into your company in EIRR. Maybe you should focus less on reinforcements, and more on a balanced composition.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2009, 12:57:26 pm » |
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You might have a plan for it, but at the Company/Battalion level its not going to change what units you have available to do said fighting.
It's not like you get a completely different setup for defending or attacking in real life either. You make do with what you CHOSE to put into your company in EIRR. Maybe you should focus less on reinforcements, and more on a balanced composition.
What a load of crap, if i knew i was guna defend id put alot more mgs and mortars in my company then i would rifles, yet id i was guna attack out with the mgs and some mortars in with more rifles. And in real life im sure if they had to defend a place they'd have more machine guns then usual set up and if they were going to attack alot fewer. |
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