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[Relay]

World of Warcraft is the best MMO ever created. MMO games are pretty rubbish generally as they are too time consuming and repetitive but WoW sets the standard and any gamer should at least try the trial.

The nonsense about addictive gameplay should not be believed, when it gets boring you stop doing it as with any other video game. The fact that some people play it so much is a testament to its superiority.

MMOs which punish the player are retarded in my opinion. It is not fun, just aggravating. There is enough shit in life without entertainment becoming a negative experience too.

As for the shit community, its true but thats to be expected because humans are scum. Games like EVE online have the same proportion of bastards, only they are far more sadistic.

[AmPM]

MMOs which punish the player are retarded in my opinion. It is not fun, just aggravating. There is enough shit in life without entertainment becoming a negative experience too.

There is a reason we call you Carebears, also, if you don't like losing stuff, don't play EiR =)

It's a game of risk vs reward, not reward + reward. It's much more like EvE Online which is why many of us play it (Leton, I may have to come join you guys in Veto, Carebear tears taste so sweet), anyway, just don't cry when you vet units get chased off the field and killed.

[DasNoob]

Ah damn, I might have to re-sub S1n1ster M1n1ster to taste some of those tears....

[Glaze]

There is a reason we call you Carebears, also, if you don't like losing stuff, don't play EiR =)

Does anybody ENJOY losing stuff?!

[LeTon]

MMOs which punish the player are retarded in my opinion. It is not fun, just aggravating. There is enough shit in life without entertainment becoming a negative experience too.

There is a reason we call you Carebears, also, if you don't like losing stuff, don't play EiR =)

It's a game of risk vs reward, not reward + reward. It's much more like EvE Online which is why many of us play it (Leton, I may have to come join you guys in Veto, Carebear tears taste so sweet), anyway, just don't cry when you vet units get chased off the field and killed.

Atlanton and I would definitely put in a vouch for you...if you ever felt the desire to subject yourself to the sould destroying (And essay writing) experience that is : The Veto application.

-Ninja edit- And as to losing stuff...The taking stuff away part far outweighs the occasional "losing stuff" factor. Plus...Pirates are badass. And if you fly a Pilgrim, (EvE reference) Ninja pirates are badass x2.

[AmPM]

Pilgrim if for girls, real men pirate in a Cov Ops Loki!

[AmPM]

There is a reason we call you Carebears, also, if you don't like losing stuff, don't play EiR =)

Does anybody ENJOY losing stuff?!

Nope, but gaining stuff without a risk is just dull. Oh no, you die, run back, hit it more, die, run back, hit it more, until blind luck kills it.

Or you actually risk something, and it makes the whole process so much more rewarding, and requires you to plan ahead, think and actually use some skill.

[Relay]

Just losing and knowing that you failed is punishment enough, actually taking away someone's time that they put into the game is too much. As was said, nobody enjoys losing stuff. The reason you like it is for the opportunity cause someone else grief, because you are BASTARDS.

Anyway, EiR is on a totally different level to things like EVE online. Any losses can be made up easily in this game, fortunately.

[gamesguy2]

Just losing and knowing that you failed is punishment enough, actually taking away someone's time that they put into the game is too much. As was said, nobody enjoys losing stuff. The reason you like it is for the opportunity cause someone else grief, because you are BASTARDS.

Anyway, EiR is on a totally different level to things like EVE online. Any losses can be made up easily in this game, fortunately.

Nah they're just bitter cause piracy is dead in eve.

There's nobody in lowsec, and any pirate gang of significant size just gets hotdropped.   If you're solo pirating you can waste hours going through system after system to have everyone warp off and cloak or log when you enter local.

Not to mention the game is full of bugs and bugs that have been legalized or turned into "features" because ccp is too lazy to fix it.

[LeTon]

Nah they're just bitter cause piracy is dead in eve.

There's nobody in lowsec

First point : WRONG!

Second point : Correct. (mostly)

They're in these fantabulous things called wormholes...It's a pirates wet dream. Carebear battleships in wormholes that come to YOU, and best of all...no local. Easy to find with my cov-ops alt...takes 2-3 minutes per system to find them.

Recently, 3x hulks payed me 400 mil for their ships and pods...It took Atlanton 2 mins to find the WH in our home system...

God I love HICS in wormhole space...bubbles...weeeeee!

-Edit- And with solo pirating...you "can" do this...but it's more effective metagame style. I run a carebear alt as my evil scout. She also gives me sexy bonuses like 10% to my armor HP, shield HP, agility and locking range.

[LeTon]

OH and lol...I just found this : http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5305/comic11f.jpg

[anthony210]

OH and lol...I just found this : http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5305/comic11f.jpg

Thats what I love about eve, you can fire on anyone, anywhere.  In high sec you will get destroyed as well but if you can kill the other guy in a few shots its worth it sometimes.  I have netted myself over a billion isk once suicide ganking.

[DasNoob]

Nah they're just bitter cause piracy is dead in eve.

There's nobody in lowsec

First point : WRONG!

Second point : Correct. (mostly)

They're in these fantabulous things called wormholes...It's a pirates wet dream. Carebear battleships in wormholes that come to YOU, and best of all...no local. Easy to find with my cov-ops alt...takes 2-3 minutes per system to find them.

Recently, 3x hulks payed me 400 mil for their ships and pods...It took Atlanton 2 mins to find the WH in our home system...

God I love HICS in wormhole space...bubbles...weeeeee!

-Edit- And with solo pirating...you "can" do this...but it's more effective metagame style. I run a carebear alt as my evil scout. She also gives me sexy bonuses like 10% to my armor HP, shield HP, agility and locking range.

OMGWTF?  Ok now i'm really gonna resub.

[anthony210]

Its still pretty dead DasNoob.  Even in wormholes you can spend hours trying to find 1 guy, if you even manage to find him.  Not to mention with no local you dont even know if someone is actually in the system so you could be searching for nothing.

[LeTon]

Its still pretty dead DasNoob.  Even in wormholes you can spend hours trying to find 1 guy, if you even manage to find him.  Not to mention with no local you dont even know if someone is actually in the system so you could be searching for nothing.

I guess if you suck at scanning...Pretty easy to tell if stuff is at a POS or mining....or ratting for that matter.

Wormholes are a bit like the lottery, but when you score, you generally score big.

And again, you spend HOURS trying to find stuff if you're terrible at probing...We generally wormhole hunt in crews of 3-4 probers, combing an entire region in a little under an hour. We generally find SOMETHING worth pew pew'ing at.

[gamesguy2]

Nah they're just bitter cause piracy is dead in eve.

There's nobody in lowsec

First point : WRONG!

Second point : Correct. (mostly)

They're in these fantabulous things called wormholes...It's a pirates wet dream. Carebear battleships in wormholes that come to YOU, and best of all...no local. Easy to find with my cov-ops alt...takes 2-3 minutes per system to find them.

Recently, 3x hulks payed me 400 mil for their ships and pods...It took Atlanton 2 mins to find the WH in our home system...

God I love HICS in wormhole space...bubbles...weeeeee!

-Edit- And with solo pirating...you "can" do this...but it's more effective metagame style. I run a carebear alt as my evil scout. She also gives me sexy bonuses like 10% to my armor HP, shield HP, agility and locking range.

And give it a couple more months and the carebears will stop going into wormholes once the novelty wears off.   

Face it, piracy is dead and has been dead for quite a while. 

[LeTon]

And give it a couple more months and the carebears will stop going into wormholes once the novelty wears off.  

Doubtful. With the best risk vs. reward than anything in game...carebears will still try their luck.

A few hours in a class 4 can net you hundreds of millions of isk. If you manage to snag some radars and magnetos, you can get into the billions of isk. (Carebear friend of mine spent 3 hours in a class 4 wormhole and hauled out 1.2 bil isk) Some is still a bit of luck...One of the intact hull componets from magnetometric sites  (and I mean ONE) can run for 300 million by itself.

It's been some months since wormholes have been implemented, and there's no shortage of nubs to gank. They're just more wary, and us pirates adapt...As I said...I extracted 400 mil from some hulks recently...That is still piracy at work.

[gamesguy2]

Doubtful. With the higher risk vs. reward than anything in game...carebears will still try their luck.

A few hours in a class 4 can net you hundreds of millions of isk. If you manage to snag some radars, you can get into the billions of isk. (Carebear friend of mine spent 3 hours in a class 4 wormhole and hauled out 1.2 bil isk) Some is still a bit of luck...One of the intact hull componets from magnetometric sites  (and I mean ONE) can run for 300 million by itself.

It's been some months since wormholes have been implemented, and there's no shortage of nubs to gank. They're just more wary, and us pirates adapt...As I said...I extracted 400 mil from some hulks recently...That is still piracy at work.

I bet if you sat down and looked at the number of hours spent scanning, actually going into the WH, doing the plex, and averaged it out, the guy in a CNR doing L4s in highsec will be making more isk/hour than you.

Why would hulks be in wormholes?

And a lucky find doesn't mean anything.   The last time I pirated before I quit eve I hotdropped a carrier gatecamping and netted 800m in ransom.  That doesn't mean piracy isn't dead.

It hasn't been all that long anyways.  Look at how long it took before people stopped doing FW.  Give it another couple of months and WHs will be empty except for organized players.

[DasNoob]

LOL that is so true in eve man.  Fads...

[Mavrik]

Doubtful. With the higher risk vs. reward than anything in game...carebears will still try their luck.

A few hours in a class 4 can net you hundreds of millions of isk. If you manage to snag some radars, you can get into the billions of isk. (Carebear friend of mine spent 3 hours in a class 4 wormhole and hauled out 1.2 bil isk) Some is still a bit of luck...One of the intact hull componets from magnetometric sites  (and I mean ONE) can run for 300 million by itself.

It's been some months since wormholes have been implemented, and there's no shortage of nubs to gank. They're just more wary, and us pirates adapt...As I said...I extracted 400 mil from some hulks recently...That is still piracy at work.

I bet if you sat down and looked at the number of hours spent scanning, actually going into the WH, doing the plex, and averaged it out, the guy in a CNR doing L4s in highsec will be making more isk/hour than you.

Why would hulks be in wormholes?

And a lucky find doesn't mean anything.   The last time I pirated before I quit eve I hotdropped a carrier gatecamping and netted 800m in ransom.  That doesn't mean piracy isn't dead.

It hasn't been all that long anyways.  Look at how long it took before people stopped doing FW.  Give it another couple of months and WHs will be empty except for organized players.

Where do you get your information, you clearly know nothing about how eve works. Piracy is alive, it never died. FW is still being done, alot infact.

Lowsec is pretty populated, more than it used to be. Its no highsec, but if u have eyes you can find plenty of targets.

Go get some real facts about where Eve is at, and then maybe you will have something useful to add to this discussion rather than what you are doing now, which is making yourself look like an idiot