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Author Topic: Axis/ "We come in numbers"/ How the allied got overwhelmed.  (Read 14962 times)
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Unkn0wn Offline
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2009, 04:48:06 am »

Volks & fausts I heard.
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Baine Offline
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2009, 05:39:08 am »

Volks & fausts I heard.

More like unupgraded volks, haven't seen them use fausts. He only had grens with lmg, volks, some pios, P4s and several stormies with schrecks(one with stg).

His friend had lots of luftwaffe infantry, some marders, some ACs, one or two ATHTs and several falls with FG42 and Fausts, and a Panther.
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« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2009, 07:43:18 am »

wasnt a big blob really (4-5 fallschirmjäger..)

seems that you never played against airbornes and infantry company in old EiR

there were many people using 4-5 squad raidborne each to drop when attacking and completely trashed any defense
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2009, 08:19:24 am »

The other night in EiR I saw seven airborne squads blobbed together from two players.

It was kind of ridiculous.

Then they got suppressed and I dropped a firestorm on them :p
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« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2009, 08:24:47 am »

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there were many people using 4-5 squad raidborne each to drop when attacking and completely trashed any defense

Thats why I always started with flame pios with gols, that was ultimate pwnage.
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Glaze Offline
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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2009, 09:27:36 am »

Lots of Luftwaffle infantry you say!?  Mass Volksgrenadiers?!  Sounds super epic!

Edit: Watching now, pretty interesting match, those Volks and Luft are being suprisingly effective!  Bank is being a total idiot to his mate though.

Edit 2: Finished!  The Axis messed up that big blob SO BAD at the end, sitting on the road in negative cover.  I think they might have pulled it off if that flamethrower dude got whacked, and I really wish they did.  Bank was suchhhhhh a baby in that game, I commend his teammate for keeping his cool throughout.
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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2009, 11:59:20 am »

These players are a nuisance to play against.

If you play against them make sure you know what you're up against and reassign your battalion accordingly (spam)

One time we played a 3v3 against them and one of their players had a Panther and four Marders on the field at once.
 
16 + 6*4 = 40 pop worth of AT.

The only thing that made me happy about the game was that I ran over 20+ of his men with my Cromwell. Liarde and company are nothing more than spammers and noobs who put their blobs in red cover and still manage to win games.
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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2009, 12:10:42 pm »

Offtopic but a Marder is 6 pop jack. Tongue
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2009, 12:14:10 pm »

Thanks for reminding me.
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Lai Offline
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« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2009, 12:21:21 pm »

I doubt leiarde is a noob. Check his ranked 1v1 stats.
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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2009, 12:23:10 pm »

Thats nothing, I remember playing him on semois. It was nothing but just 1 big AB blob that he spammed mortar smoke around + alot of strafes. Skill = 0.
Any noob can get good 1v1 stats in vCoH these days.
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« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2009, 12:25:00 pm »

k, sounds lame. What do you mean these days, greny? Since ToV, the last year, since OF?
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« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2009, 05:01:47 pm »

Pshh, lies! *proceeds to win 200 comp stomps in a row*

Look, I be pro!
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arsonist123 Offline
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« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2009, 06:01:55 pm »

=(, sorry I know I was such a nub that round.   

Call it Pmsing>.>   Beside I believe longrange had no idea what i was talking about the whole round haha.       

But you know I still had more being called in yeah I had at guns for my last call ins ^.^! Going to snipe them pesky Luffewaffle using ap rounds.
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donnieDark Offline
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« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2009, 08:02:15 pm »

So many armchair generals these days.  If a guy wants to spam and it wins him matches, then let him.  Everyone always wants to micro someone elses troops.  If we all played the same then this game would be hella boring. 

btw  the Leirde i remember puma spammed  Grin
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Glaze Offline
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« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2009, 08:05:34 pm »

=(, sorry I know I was such a nub that round.    

Call it Pmsing>.>   Beside I believe longrange had no idea what i was talking about the whole round haha.      

But you know I still had more being called in yeah I had at guns for my last call ins ^.^! Going to snipe them pesky Luffewaffle using ap rounds.

Haha, no worries, I get like that sometimes too to be honest.
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« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2009, 08:07:33 pm »

k, sounds lame. What do you mean these days, greny? Since ToV, the last year, since OF?

If I recall correctly...

1.4 had Super-Crocs and Plasma Smoke. 1.5 had Golraeder's fast M8 strat. 1.6-1.7 had Aniketos' unbeatable Piospam.



For vEIR, I think Stumpster had some sort of M8 spam in conjunction with Vehicle Technology. I think Grenspam used to be popular during the early incarnations of vEIR. And, of course, Rangerspam (before and after the OF Elite Armor) was present...and way, way back, Stormtrooper hit/retreat spam.
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« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2009, 10:17:25 pm »

Things like the StuH used to be OP because it did things like "come with stormtroopers for free" and "shoot a StuG shot with a 105mm explosion". Tiger came with free storms, too.

The old days before OF were all about dual tiger vs dual pershing fights, sometimes with a fast calli sherman thrown in for good measure (used as a tank of course because calli barrage costed munitions and the main gun worked).

Then there was the fun stuff like inspired assault base schrek rape, inspired assault super sniper, plasma shield sherman, bike spam (I think Heroic Company did that one...), pio spam, engineer spam (from beta, that one got fixed early), old school "semois pin" style wire play (due to no wire cutters by default), the Puma being OP, the M8 being OP, the StuG Spam being OP, "free" King Tiger came around as OF did, OP strafe around 2.3 or 2.301 after OF (or back in 1.7 I think, but I don't remember that far back too well), really the metagame goes hand in hand with "finding and exploiting the new OP strat of the day".

It's what good players do, is try to find the best way to win. If that way to win is believed to be too powerful (such as the bike spam, piospam, engineer spam, plasma shield, et c.) it should be nerfed in patches.
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arsonist123 Offline
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« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2009, 10:42:57 pm »

Things like the StuH used to be OP because it did things like "come with stormtroopers for free" and "shoot a StuG shot with a 105mm explosion". Tiger came with free storms, too.

The old days before OF were all about dual tiger vs dual pershing fights, sometimes with a fast calli sherman thrown in for good measure (used as a tank of course because calli barrage costed munitions and the main gun worked).

Then there was the fun stuff like inspired assault base schrek rape, inspired assault super sniper, plasma shield sherman, bike spam (I think Heroic Company did that one...), pio spam, engineer spam (from beta, that one got fixed early), old school "semois pin" style wire play (due to no wire cutters by default), the Puma being OP, the M8 being OP, the StuG Spam being OP, "free" King Tiger came around as OF did, OP strafe around 2.3 or 2.301 after OF (or back in 1.7 I think, but I don't remember that far back too well), really the metagame goes hand in hand with "finding and exploiting the new OP strat of the day".

It's what good players do, is try to find the best way to win. If that way to win is believed to be too powerful (such as the bike spam, piospam, engineer spam, plasma shield, et c.) it should be nerfed in patches.

Whats plasma? are you talking about the same game? I've never heard of these methods? care to elaborate?
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« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2009, 11:03:48 pm »

Things like the StuH used to be OP because it did things like "come with stormtroopers for free" and "shoot a StuG shot with a 105mm explosion". Tiger came with free storms, too.

The old days before OF were all about dual tiger vs dual pershing fights, sometimes with a fast calli sherman thrown in for good measure (used as a tank of course because calli barrage costed munitions and the main gun worked).

Then there was the fun stuff like inspired assault base schrek rape, inspired assault super sniper, plasma shield sherman, bike spam (I think Heroic Company did that one...), pio spam, engineer spam (from beta, that one got fixed early), old school "semois pin" style wire play (due to no wire cutters by default), the Puma being OP, the M8 being OP, the StuG Spam being OP, "free" King Tiger came around as OF did, OP strafe around 2.3 or 2.301 after OF (or back in 1.7 I think, but I don't remember that far back too well), really the metagame goes hand in hand with "finding and exploiting the new OP strat of the day".

It's what good players do, is try to find the best way to win. If that way to win is believed to be too powerful (such as the bike spam, piospam, engineer spam, plasma shield, et c.) it should be nerfed in patches.

Whats plasma? are you talking about the same game? I've never heard of these methods? care to elaborate?

This is sherman plasma shield.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSfrX1cN6VQ&feature=related
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